12 Step Your Damn Self  

aascrompn 42M
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7/19/2006 6:39 am

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12 Step Your Damn Self

This has been pissing me off for the last couple of days. I have analyzed this interaction to death and have finally come to my conclusion. I'm about to share with you an interaction with some overweight "counselor" that [blog freshmoe] and I ran into on Saturday night.

While close to town Saturday, Fresh and I decided to grab a couple of seats at a pretty nice patio bar. We were admiring the scenery (only about 3 of them) and were talking the same BS girl talk we always do. He talked about his TennisMaiden (not the the sweetheart on AdultFriendFinder), and I talked about my Boomerang Bitch. The entire time we were there, Fresh decides he wants an 'in' with the group next to us, as they had some attractive bettys in the group. Of course I never noticed these women at first, as I don't look anymore... I digress.

The group of ladies asked if I could take a pic of their group. I did so. This gave Fresh the in he was looking for. He picked the heavier girl to ask what they did for a living (they all worked together). She said that they were all Drug and Alcohol counselors at a local facility. Fresh made a cute remark about how much I drink. Let the games begin.

Let me preface this with the fact that I was in a very happy place and was in no consition mentally to challenge or be challenged. I was calm, cool, collected. This lady proceeds to ask a series of questions. 1. How much do you drink per week? Answer: five nights per week. She declared me an alcoholic. I disagreed with her that that fact doesn't make me an alcoholic. 2. How much do you drink per setting? Answer: A lot. She wanted me to elaborate... I answered that for a while there, I was putting down about 2 to 2.5 pitchers per night along w/ a few shots. She declared me an alcoholic. I disagreed. She then ordered herself another glass of wine, b/c she felt it might have helped her w/ her slurring. 3. What if you killed a 5 year old while driving home? How would that make you feel? Answer: I'd feel the same way as if I'd killed a 61 year old grandmother. 4. What if your mother was killed by a drunk driver? Would you be mad? Answer: Yes, I'd be mad, but it was his decision to drive and he'd have to live w/ the conciquences. 5. Why do you drive when you're drunk? Answer: Because I know my abilities and/or lack thereof. If I feel too intoxicated to drive, I order a taxi (very rare). 6. She asks Fresh if he's concerned about my drinking habits and he replied, yes, he is. Meanwhile this bitch is pounding her wine, smoking our smokes and slurring her fat ass off. 7. Your friends are concerned about you... what do you have to say about that. Answer: I don't give a shit... I make my choices. I am responsible for me and me alone. Yes, I'm happy that my friends have concerns for my well being, but in the end, I'm responsible for my own actions. That particular evening, over the course of three hours, I'd only consumed 4 beers. This bitch is slamming wine. Her friends had to grab her keys from her b/c "...she's doing it again... everytime we go out...". This bitch, a Drug and alcohol counselor, is intoxicated out of her mind and lecturing me.

The bigger picture is what really floors me. We live in a society where we are all victoms. The perception is that it's nobody's fault for anything wrong. These Drug and alcohol classes give the sense that these people are victoms to these substances. I say bullshit! If you are an alcoholic, great, understand your problem and correct it. Don't be the damn victom. These programs are shit!

I've scared myself on a couple of occasions. I've pretty much corrected my problem by not driving when I've consumed too much. Usually, this is stemming from a party of which I know there will be massive quantity of beverages. I know that I will just crash there for the evening, so I have fun. The fact that I continue to drink when I want, is no damn indicator of me being an alcoholic. I don't wake up craving it. I don't go through withdrawls. I can go without it for any length of time that I want and choose. What gets me is the scene around it. When I feel comfortable with my surroundings (my home away from home) I consume more, b/c I enjoy the conversations I'm in. It's not about the alcohol, it's about the good times. When I'm in an environment of which I'm not accustomed, I don't drink a fraction of my normal. It is what it is.

My suggestion to this bitch is to take the damn 12 step program herself... This will help her to lose the excess food storage she's accumulated, as well as allow her to get a better theory to memorize.

~ AAS (still drunk from last week apparantly)

TabithaElectra 38F

7/19/2006 8:40 am

" I consume more, b/c I enjoy the conversations I'm in. It's not about the alcohol, it's about the good times. When I'm in an environment of which I'm not accustomed, I don't drink a fraction of my normal. " ~~~

Same here, it's all about the company for me, I drink more when I'm with friends ~ and no, before anybody says it, I don't need to drink to have a good time!

It's just fun!

But as with everything, there's gotta be a balance!

aascrompn replies on 7/19/2006 8:51 am:
Oh ya?? You feel like drinking w/ me?? I'll help you keep your balance...

EroticaXTC 50F

7/19/2006 10:35 am

Reminds me of the 12 stepper I work with. He's obnoxious, rude, and thinks he can "diagnose and cure" everyone around him without their asking. He may have kicked his alcohol and drug addiction, but he still walks around with his foot in his mouth. Now, if we could find a way to jerk his tongue out and sew his mouth shut, the rest of us could work in relative peace and harmony.
I agree with Tabs, it's all about balance.

aascrompn replies on 7/21/2006 6:57 am:
lol... hate ppl like that! I offered her assistance w/ her balance, but alas, she's ignoring me.

rm_1hotwahine 63F
21091 posts
7/19/2006 10:50 am

Two issues here - drinking/alcoholism and drinking/driving. Won't comment on the first one as it would serve no purpose. My comment on the second is that there is never, never, never any justification or excuse for it. Ever. It is only by the grace of God (or someone) that I didn't take out a bus stop full of people or mow down a line of pedestrians or smash into something head on in my youth. I look back and just CRINGE at the condition that occasional social drinkers are when they're behind the wheel.

Sorry about the tangent. Have fun at the party. "Crashing" there is an excellent idea. Or even catch a ride with someone else. That way temptation or a faulty judgement call is eliminated.

Yeah, I'm still [blog 1hotwahine]

aascrompn replies on 7/21/2006 6:59 am:
I know it's not kosher to do it, but I know that I'm usually very good behind the wheel.

Yes, crashing there is the way to go. I've adjusted to doing so. I really hate staying in other people's homes, but it's better than staying in a cell...

warmandsexy52 64M
13164 posts
7/19/2006 1:01 pm

Aas my friend, I can see where you're coming from as regards victims. The strange thing about paragliding is that whatever happens we don't see ourselves as victims. Unlucky if we're generous with ourselves, goofed (and sometimes fatally so) if we're not.

On the other hand it is good that in the event of drink problems that support exists. I think the framework exists to give structure to your own desire to deal with the issue.

Personally I rarely drink other than with friends, because it is a social activity, but equally I rarely drink a lot when I am with friends, parties excluded, and even then it depends on the party.


aascrompn replies on 7/21/2006 7:00 am:
Fatal is bad...

Yes, I'm happy that there is a support group all of my own, but they don't need to bring their damn palm plams w/ them. lol

I rarely drink at home. Until recently, I've not even had alcohol in my home.

want2play926 45F

7/19/2006 2:47 pm

I dated a guy that went through the 12 steps. Every time I drank a beer he started on me...I told him to go 'step' someone else. The only reason I was drinking to so deal with him. He told me that I was unhealthy for him....he was such an asswipe!

aascrompn replies on 7/21/2006 7:01 am:
lol... i'll bet you didn't date for long!

ArtisticTwist75 41F
2505 posts
7/19/2006 11:43 pm

I think I am the only one... but what I noticed most in this post was not all of the various statements regarding Alcohol... I don't really care if you drink as long you don't kill either the five or 61 year olds... What matters to me, and what you pointed out superbly by the way, is the victim mentality of our society.

It perturbs me more than I can say. I have more than a few things to whine and moan about. I could play the victim card from now till the day I die and still have plays left... I don't... I don't want to be a victim... and anyone who does... needs my zoloft more than I do.

I truly believe the only people who choose to be victims do so because they have nothing to survive or because they lack the mental astutness to comprehend what survival is all about. Just my ten cent rantings... I have a headache so perhaps I'm wrong... then again... maybe not.

Artistic (stepping off her soap box on AAS's Blog... Again... How do you always manage to get me up there?)

aascrompn replies on 7/21/2006 7:02 am:
Yes! I'm sooo glad that you picked up on that point! That was really the point for the whole post...

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