A 4th of July Remembrance ...  

TTigerAtty 62M
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A 4th of July Remembrance ...

Disclaimer: Although I have had a few detractors who have objected to my posting of quotes from other sources in my blog, I have decided to post the following. I've read the document over and over again. And I find that I just cannot distill it down or improve upon it in anyway. I hope that no one will be offended by the words that follow.

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America


When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. – That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, – That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. – Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred. to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. – And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

~~~ John Hancock ~~~

New Hampshire:
Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton

Massachusetts:
John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry

Rhode Island:
Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery

Connecticut:
Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott

New York:
William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris

New Jersey:
Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark

Pennsylvania:
Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross

Delaware:
Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean

Maryland:
Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton

Virginia:
George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton

North Carolina:
William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn

South Carolina:
Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton

Georgia:
Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton



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sillyperv 54M

7/3/2006 4:29 pm

Sure, it was a bunch of elitest driven by the glory of statehood - like the twits always calling for Quebec Independance - but it is still one of the finest and elegantly stated visions of rights and the responsiblities of the people in a nation governed by the people, for the people.

Which as we know .........

Oh, I won't ruin the moment. Happy July 4th.

Pssstt! Italy and Germany tomorrow.


blueguy1051 60M

7/3/2006 8:13 pm

Good Lord, you copyrighted the Declaration of Independence?!? What the hell are the rest of us supposed to do now?


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
7/3/2006 10:28 pm

OMG .... it's everywhere ... i'll just copy paste here too to be sure iv'e fully scoured for the recent canuky disease.


Oh, oh ....First hint that we have an Air(head)Canada spinoff of Air(head)America up here ... hmmm, it's catching i guess. .... and as a result, does that mean all of it's believer's minds and souls are also owned lock stock and hockey stick by Soros? ..... doesn't surprise me at all tho.

Maybe my severe distaste for my know - it - all fella canukys penchant for putting down another country ...........when there is FAR more to clean up back home in in their own country ....... is getting to me.


lol @ blueguy ...... looks like he just grabbed it on ya.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
7/4/2006 9:54 am

a great 4th !!! to you wonderfull folks

we just had ours on the 1st ..... but i did notice that so many of "us" here would rather define us bi cursing the US, .... defining us as "what we are not" ... rather than as we are. .....hense my strong comment above about constantly critical know it alls ....... the old "glass house" adage.


OboesHonedIambs 62F

7/4/2006 10:03 am

    Quoting sweetbabydee07:
    US code Title 17 Chapter 1 Section 105 withholds copyright from all publications produced by the US Government. Presumably that means that no one else can then go on and copyright it either? Wouldn't worry too much, Blue...

    This post was interesting though. Not being American, I never had any cause to read any of this before now. And I liked it. It's elegant yet plainly worded, forceful yet not aggressive.

    I especially appreciated these two sentences:

    "For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury"

    "For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences"

    Highly relevant considering the Supreme Court's recent decision in Hamdan vs Rumsfeld with regard to the legality of the prison camps at Guantanamo. Obviously some men are created more equal than others in the eyes of George W.

    I also enjoyed the bit about "endeavouring to prevent the population of these States, obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners, refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither..." Ah, how things change!

    Happy 4th of July, Tiger.

Wasn't that king's name George as well? Happy 4th!

Instant Human -- Just Add Coffee


RevJoseyWales 69M/66F
14393 posts
7/4/2006 11:47 am

Gee, Tig, you really shouldn't have tried to copywrite the DoI. Isn't that illegal? But it is, in truth, very republican. Actually an appropriate post for today. Now if you could just get the people you so admire to read both this AND the Bill of Rights, perhaps (and only perhaps) they might quit trying to resatore the monarchy. Joe

"McVeigh had the right idea, wrong address."

"This ain't Dodge City, and you ain't Bill Hickok."


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
7/4/2006 12:49 pm




A Grrrrrrreat July 4!!!
to you Jackie

& to All the USA!!!!


BTW - That was some neat firecracker at the Cape!!!

(Note: This is a a politics - free genuine wish!!)


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
7/4/2006 12:51 pm



A Grrrrrrreat July 4!!!
to All the USA!!!!


BTW - That was some neat firecracker at the Cape!!!

(Note: This is a "politics - free" genuine wish!!)


TheCliticals 34F/F

7/5/2006 1:27 am

Happy 4 th July.

Please take good care of those United States until England wants them back


TTigerAtty 62M

7/5/2006 7:06 am

    Quoting sillyperv:
    Sure, it was a bunch of elitest driven by the glory of statehood - like the twits always calling for Quebec Independance - but it is still one of the finest and elegantly stated visions of rights and the responsiblities of the people in a nation governed by the people, for the people.

    Which as we know .........

    Oh, I won't ruin the moment. Happy July 4th.

    Pssstt! Italy and Germany tomorrow.
I'll try to make a point to watch the match between Italy and Germany! Here in the USA, there are sometimes complaints about the French, but as I recall, if Benjamin Franklin had not been able to secure some help from French during our American revolution, we might still be a colony of England. Those conflicts of yesteryear are hopefully forgotten these days, and we all stand on the side of freedom and democracy.


TTigerAtty 62M

7/5/2006 7:08 am

    Quoting blueguy1051:
    Good Lord, you copyrighted the Declaration of Independence?!? What the hell are the rest of us supposed to do now?
Just checking to see if anyone would actually read the whole thing! I've removed the copyright so that we can all share the Declaration of Independence! Thanks for stopping by! Hope you had a Happy 4th!


TTigerAtty 62M

7/5/2006 7:14 am

    Quoting LilSquirt_4mfm:
    OMG .... it's everywhere ... i'll just copy paste here too to be sure iv'e fully scoured for the recent canuky disease.

    Oh, oh ....First hint that we have an Air(head)Canada spinoff of Air(head)America up here ... hmmm, it's catching i guess. .... and as a result, does that mean all of it's believer's minds and souls are also owned lock stock and hockey stick by Soros? ..... doesn't surprise me at all tho.

    Maybe my severe distaste for my know - it - all fella canukys penchant for putting down another country ...........when there is FAR more to clean up back home in in their own country ....... is getting to me.

    lol @ blueguy ...... looks like he just grabbed it on ya.
I suppose one cannot copyright something in the "public domain"! Oh well, I guess I'll just have to copyright 'The Lord's Prayer'. As we all know, God is no longer in the "public domain"!

Just tryin' to have some fun with a little birthday party down here and my loveable liberal friends want to put a damper on it!


TTigerAtty 62M

7/5/2006 7:21 am

What a 4th of July to remember!

2006: The year we successfully launched Space Shuttle Discovery from Cape Kennedy, used our super secret "Ronald W. Reagan and George W. Bush Star Wars Missile Defense System" to alter the trajectory of six North Korean missiles and successfully ditch them into the Sea of Japan, celebrated George W. Bush's 60th birthday at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, listened to the musical stylings of Michael Bolton and Stevie Wonder on the Washington Mall and celebrated across our great land with parades and fireworks displays in all small towns.

What a country, MzHuny!


TTigerAtty 62M

7/5/2006 7:31 am

    Quoting sweetbabydee07:
    US code Title 17 Chapter 1 Section 105 withholds copyright from all publications produced by the US Government. Presumably that means that no one else can then go on and copyright it either? Wouldn't worry too much, Blue...

    This post was interesting though. Not being American, I never had any cause to read any of this before now. And I liked it. It's elegant yet plainly worded, forceful yet not aggressive.

    I especially appreciated these two sentences:

    "For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury"

    "For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences"

    Highly relevant considering the Supreme Court's recent decision in Hamdan vs Rumsfeld with regard to the legality of the prison camps at Guantanamo. Obviously some men are created more equal than others in the eyes of George W.

    I also enjoyed the bit about "endeavouring to prevent the population of these States, obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners, refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither..." Ah, how things change!

    Happy 4th of July, Tiger.

Dee, we're just having a little birthday party over here! The whole nation is celebrating. We're on the offense against terrorism, successfully launched another space shuttle and people are free to live their lives as they please.

Sorry you're life is filled with so much bitterness, darkness, negativity and cynicism that you feel compelled to throw stones at the USA! The handling of enemy combatants and wartime detainees will be worked out, my friend. We have three branches of government in the USA. From time to time, any one of them may overreach until equilibrium is returned. We'll work it out on our own and in the American way, Dee. No help needed from you, but thanks for offering!


TTigerAtty 62M

7/5/2006 7:37 am

    Quoting LilSquirt_4mfm:
    a great 4th !!! to you wonderfull folks

    we just had ours on the 1st ..... but i did notice that so many of "us" here would rather define us bi cursing the US, .... defining us as "what we are not" ... rather than as we are. .....hense my strong comment above about constantly critical know it alls ....... the old "glass house" adage.
A belated Happy Birthday to our northern friends! I'd like to learn more about Canada's struggle for independence. I don't recall learning about it during my school years. I agree with you, LilSquirt. Define yourselves by what YOU ARE and what YOU ASPIRE TO BECOME, not by what YOU ARE AGAINST! Canada has much to be proud of. If you post something under your new 'World and US News' segment, I'll come over and read it!


TTigerAtty 62M

7/5/2006 7:43 am

Thanks for stopping by! Happy 4th! I rather have a strong President at this particular juncture in history than a weak one. And, if President Bush has gone a bit too far in defending out country against the fanatical terrorists who want to kill you and me, then this will get rectified by our system, seperate but egual branches of the federal government.


TTigerAtty 62M

7/5/2006 7:56 am

    Quoting RevJoseyWales:
    Gee, Tig, you really shouldn't have tried to copywrite the DoI. Isn't that illegal? But it is, in truth, very republican. Actually an appropriate post for today. Now if you could just get the people you so admire to read both this AND the Bill of Rights, perhaps (and only perhaps) they might quit trying to resatore the monarchy. Joe
Joe, I admire the document and was just trying to pull a fast one! Our seperate and equal branch of government system will reach equilibrium. At least, our Commander in Chief is on duty and trying to protect us from the bad guys who want to kill us. Now, Congress gets to way in on what we do with detainees from this "War on Terrorism". Meanwhile, there are 450 detainees at GITMO that we don't have to worry about for right now. (Yes, I know that some may eventually be found to be innocent. And that's a shame. Shall we release these nice fellows in your hometown?) All is fine in America, and the GITMO issue will get sorted out by our well-paid representatives in Washington, D.C. Contrary to popular hysterical opinion, the sky is not falling and the sun still rises in the west. Hope your 4th was great!


TTigerAtty 62M

7/5/2006 8:00 am

    Quoting LilSquirt_4mfm:


    A Grrrrrrreat July 4!!! to All the USA!!!!

    BTW - That was some neat firecracker at the Cape!!!

    (Note: This is a "politics - free" genuine wish!!)
Thanks! I was glued to the TV when Space Shuttle Discovery launched. Soon after that, Kim Jong-il was launching his own bottle rockets. I wonder what the fish kill was in the Sea of Japan? Will you Canadians help us out? He demands a ship load of beer to stop shooting off missiles, and he doesn't like out watered-down Bud Light!


TTigerAtty 62M

7/5/2006 8:02 am

    Quoting TheCliticals:
    Happy 4 th July.

    Please take good care of those United States until England wants them back
We're 8 trillion dollars in debt! Do you want us back now?


TTigerAtty 62M

7/5/2006 1:28 pm

    Quoting sweetbabydee07:
    Oh Tiger, off you go with the hyperbole again. I'm not throwing stones, I'm just poking fun. Learn to tell the difference. I liked your post, I liked the declaration. Quite like our very own (Scottish) Declaration of Arbroath in 1320.

    My life isn't filled with bitterness, darkness or negativity. Again, what's with the hyperbolic use of emotive language? But cynicism? Well, with one well known definition of a cynic being 'one who sees things as they really are, and not merely as they ought to be' I guess I'm quite happy to be described as such.

    Hope ya had a good day!
Dee, glad to know that it is only cynicism that afflicts you. But that, in and of itself, is still a terrible burden. I am probably too damned naive on the other hand.

I never thought to be cynical or distrustful until we went through the Watergate experience in this country. Since that time, journalism students over here have all aspired to become the next Bob Woodward or Carl Bernstein. So, rather than just objectively report the news, they all seek to uncover some sinister conspiracy under every rock.

I guess that loss of innocence, that loss off a more honest and truthful time and that loss of trust is what I bemoan and regret so much.

Your Declaration of Arbroath pre-dates ours by 456 years! It's always interesting to realize how relatively new our experiment in democracy is by comparison to other countries. I hope to be able to pull the document up on the internet and read it. Or, if you will post it and put some history and frame of reference on it, I would be interested in reading it! I've seen the Mel Gipson movie
'Braveheart' (1995). So, I'm familiar with how the Scots, led by commoner William Wallace, fought for their independence from English rule. I know Scots are a fiercely independent bunch. Was the movie fairly accurate and a faithful portrayal of history?

This was a 4th of July I will probably remember. The Space Shuttle Discovery was successfully launched, and I watched it after a barbeque lunch. President Bush visited our troops at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and was presented a cake for his 60th birthday. (He's showing his age. The war and domestic politics have not been kind.) Kim Jong-il of North Korea shot off a few of his own bottle rockets which landed in the Sea of Japan, and, of course, the USA and the Bush administration was quickly blamed for this problem (not the South Koreans, the Chinese, the Russians, the Japanese nor the perpetrators themselves, the North Koreans). I took my ailing 82 year-old mother and 82 year-old stepfather to a smalltown parade and later to the public fireworks display. We enjoyed the evening, and I thought about how fortunate we are in this country. I have a feeling this could be the last year my mother and step-father are able to get out and attend these type of functions.

Do you have a particular day when you celebrate your freedom in Scotland? How do you celebrate? Fireworks? Certain foods? Parades?


TTigerAtty 62M

7/7/2006 9:40 am

    Quoting sweetbabydee07:
    Hey again. Sorry, but I couldn't find a copy of our declaration anywhere. And my knowledge of Scottish history is woeful, so I'm not going to say too much about it, or about how factually correct Braveheart was, as I may well make an ass of myself in the process!

    We don't celebrate 'freedom' as such in Scotland. We signed the Act of Union in 1707 and that created the United Kingdom as it is now and did away once and for all with the 'auld alliance' between Scotland and France. Personally I would like a truly independent Scotland, as would a lot of Scots, but it isn't likely to happen. North Sea oil makes it unlikely that the UK government would ever agree to complete devolution. Ah, oil, at the root of another problem.

    Big celebration in all of the UK is 5th November, Bonfire Night. Commemorating the foiling of the Gunpowder Plot in 1605, when a group of Catholics conspired to blow up the House of Lords and assassinate King James the 1st and 6th and the ruling Protestant elite. Guy Fawkes wasn't the principal conspirator, but he is the one we remember by burning an effigy of him (a 'guy') on our bonfires. In the UK mainland it's faded to being just an excuse for a bonfire and fireworks, but in Northern Ireland where the religious divide is still a big thing, it has very political and religious overtones. An excuse to piss off Catholics, really.

    As are the 12th July marches to commemorate the Battle of the Boyne in 1690. They only really take place in Northern Ireland and the west of Scotland. The big Belfast march is on the weekend closest to the 12th and the 'warm up' for it is held in Glasgow the week before. Again, it's not something I know a whole lot about but the Orange Order marches all through Glasgow, mainly the traditionally Catholic areas, and it always causes a lot of bad feeling and friction, public drunkenness and street fights. In Northern Ireland it causes even more trouble. Not good really.
I appreciate the very interesting history lesson. If you ever do a post on all of this let me know. I'd love to read more!

The Catholic/Protestant thing is something we need to get beyond in all countries. The small town I grew up in has a Catholic church and about three Protestant churches. In America, we seem to get along and respect each other's religious views, which are fairly close anyway since we're all Christians. I was raised Protestant but all of my cousins were raised Catholic. I almost married a Catholic girl. Marriages between Catholic and Protestant have become fairly commonplace, and I would say we have progressed in our attitudes during the past 50 years.

I'd like to understand more about this conflict in Ireland and Scotland. I hope it is moderating as new generations replace older generations.

Thanks for providing all the good history information!


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
7/7/2006 12:42 pm


i sent a container of "full bore" "Canadian" to Kim ... that should keep him quiet for a cpl weeks ... after that, u gotta cum up with another method ....... maybe a container of little xxxx xxxx........ (u know what i meant).

seems no one accepted my possibility that kim was just trying to help u guys celebrate the 4th ...... a gesture ....... ok, maybe not.

ya, gettin some good comments on my "world News - Facts Only Please & Terrorism posts. Thanks for your help on it.


TTigerAtty 62M

7/7/2006 4:08 pm

Kim Jong-il is the new "darling" of the liberal media. They are fawing all over him, trying to understand what makes him tick, was he abused as a child, why does Bush not want to invite him over for barbeque. He fired off 7 missiles on the 4th. I guess he just wants some attention. Of course, the media thinks we should reward him. After all, the Group of Six is not working. Madeleine Albright bemoans Bush foreign policy. Just not as good as when she and Bill Clinton were in charge. Why can't they just retire to obscurity and keep their damned mouths shut?


MOfunNOWWOW 55F

7/9/2006 9:30 am

Hope ya hada great weekend or a great end to the week


MOMO
just a squirrel trying to get a nut


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
7/9/2006 10:13 am


the fact is,

Jimmy, BillBob & Paddlin Madlin got suck...ered in 98, ....kim learned he could trick lefties so easily ... (good point, they likely did think they could cure his "upbringing" problem .......then, he worked hard at building more nukes during this time of "trust" .... and "HE's" not bright????

hence, Today's Problem.

They can spin it any way they want, but that is how events took place.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
7/9/2006 1:46 pm


Blame it On Bush !!!
(a Left Wingy Logic / Tactic Example)

A Fact Chronology

1998
Call to White House .."Hey!! BB (a Georgia euphemism for BillyBob), ..... "Jimmy here, i just partied with Kimbo (he told me his friends call him that) at one of his 100s' of homes last night ...... u know, he's really a good guy .... and, i think we libs have helped him to successfully overcome the problems from his harsh upbringing, .... not at all like what those Republicans make him out to be, ... he n me decided that if we just give him some aid and bucks & get off his case, he'll quit developing what he calls "those yuky nukes ". I could tell from his eyes that he's telling me the truth ... and he really has a nice smile."

BB: "Ok Jimbo (Arkansas euphemism for Jimmy), i'll send PM (Arkansas euphanism for Paddlin Madlin) immediately"

Note: Unlike our weak - willed TT, PM was one of the successfull conversions to liberalism

So, they sign a deal with Kimbo ... know that they never have to think about him again ....and go back to cursing Republicans in preparation for next election.

Result:
Meantime, our Jimbo returns to making peanuts and lovingly hating his president and country .... Paddlin Madlin hits the TV circuit to defend why she was part of merceless bombing of Belgrade citizens & Chinese Embassy to save muslims in Kosovo (all the time desperately trying to find the very 1st muslim person who will express some gratitude for that)..... and we all know what BillyBob was focusing on .

Meanwhile, unencumbered by BB, PM & Jimbo watching him, good ol Kimbo, still sporting that smile Jimbo affectionately refered to, works overtime and makes great progress, producing several viable nuke weapons, getting some really neat "taller" shoes and hair, completing more development on his long range missles ... and lots of other assorted good stuff ......


Thus, 2001
Silly Dubya (N. Korean euphanism for "fucking conservative bastard fucked up a good thing") actually thinks that Kimbo is making bad toys, calls off the "gravy train deal". WTF!

2002
Kimbo declares ...... "Hey!!, F U Dubya, I got several nukes operational" .. . and, smiling that "for Jimbo" smile, ... "thanks to BB, PM & Jimbo".

2006
"Hey!!, F U Dubya, thanks to BB, PM & Jimbo, I got several missles to fire"
BB's & PM's Good old Boy Kimbo fires off a buncha missiles including the more developed 3 stager. It pooped out, but so did the 1st 6 Vanguards as I recall.

Result: (and this is the really good part)
Now, PM (Paddlin Madlin) hits the TV circuit "We had him talking to us and smiling at ... i mean "with" us & under control, Bush killed our deal with him, it's Bush's fault" "We must go back to the deal that worked so well"


Ok libs,
apart from my smartassed "liberal" use of the language,
1. WHAT is not factual in the above?,
2. or in the obvious conclusion that you were suckered?
and 3. thus brought about the current situation of a nuke armed N. Korea flaunting their wares and thinking that they can sucker us again.??

And, no Liberal "Jimbo Kimbo Mumbo Jumbo" .. deal with it straight up, point by point!!


Whew!! .... I resisted the temptation to add "Billy's Bimbo" into that choice phrase


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
7/9/2006 3:33 pm


aha ... i opened a 3rd news type post ..... "N. Korea & Iran" ... they ARE the "official" countries most dangerous, along with the not to mention ".......ic extremism" for the next decade at least.


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