Senseyoualize 51M
13 posts
5/23/2006 8:39 pm

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6/5/2006 3:13 pm


I love etymology, and it occurred to me that we use a heck of alot of words here on AdultFriendFinder that have a hazy provenance. Take "fuck" for example. I'm sure there are scads of people here who think its origins are from some kind of acronym like "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" (like those Van Halen guys...). I mean...geez...what does that mean, anyway? And why would something that is unlawful end up being the de-rigeur way of meaning intercourse.

Well, the answer is, its the wrong answer. It is not based on some acronym. A form of Fuck (Fukke) was noted in writing in a poem by William Dunbar entitled "Ane Brash of Wowing or In Secreit Place." That's 600 year old Scottish. Prior to that, it was noted in a poem written in a mix of Latin and English entitled "Flen flyys" in which the translated line is:

"They [the monks] are not in heaven because they fuck the wives of Ely [a town near Cambridge]."

Sounds like quite a read!

The earliest notation of our current spelling of the word is in 1535. Still, the standard taboo of the word was so strong that it didn't appear in a standard dictionary until 1965!

So where did it come from? Experts note that it cognates in a number of Scandinavian languages (Danish "fokken" for "to thrust or copulate with," the Norwegion "fokka" for "to copulate," and the Swedish "focka" meaning "to strike, push, copulate" or "fock" meaning "penis." Leave it to the cold climates and those husky Scandinavians, eh? After all, what else did they have to do during the dark days of winter?

So the actual source of the word in its current usage is a bit uncertain. That it appears commonly in early Scottish text may just be an anomaly due to less of a taboo...but the strong root case from teh Scandinavian realms certainly gives rise to the idea it may have originated there.

We may never really know. But I'm sure glad we have it available to us now for it is so much more fun to want to fuck someone than to have intercourse with them.

blondietickler 43F
295 posts
5/23/2006 10:06 pm

do you know what good morning use to be?

Senseyoualize replies on 5/31/2006 6:46 pm:
Um...which language? There's no magic to "good morning" as it says what it means. Anything else is as fictional as the story about the source of "fuck you" as being "pluck yew." (though it is suggested that the hand symbol for Fuck You may have come from archers showing their archer finger to the enemy...)

blondietickler 43F
295 posts
6/2/2006 1:15 pm

actually good morning used to be god be with you and broke down into good morning.

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