The difference between being rude and the freedom of speech  

4888 posts
5/30/2006 9:47 am
The difference between being rude and the freedom of speech

Happy Tuesday everyone...

over the weekend I met the wonderfulpagan
what a wonderful, generous sexy gentleman..came with smiles and gifts and the BEAVER.. you should see the beautiful beast on wheels..This man has the life and he was so helpful for the party.
We also had the pleasure of meeting peachykeen..a beautiful lady.. very fun to talk to.. she spoiled us with manacoti and wonderful conversation and they both brought beautiful decorated chairs..I'll have pic's soon
If you all have read my blog " crazy ranting...and its long grab something to drink "You will know that we have AdultFriendFinder party's and always have a great time with good people.. food, dancing,singing.. These are party's for our friends that live the alternate life style..swingers, swappers,threesomes,bi's gays.. nudist, voyeurs and exhibitionist..We all get to gather to celebrate life.
Before the party's and well after.. we are trashed in the chat rooms from people that have never been here..saying horrible things that they know nothing about and have not been here to validate anything.

Its bothers me yes.. this is one big reason I left the chat room. because people were just too judge mental for me.

I met a woman in Tampa at a meet and greet..She is single and wanted to meet new people..we talked for awhile.. she seemed very nice so I invited her to the party's.I told her about them without holding back any punches

She joined our muffland group.. read the rules and seemed to understand everything and has read most of the comments in the group.. so should have been no surprises..

The night of the party I gathered everyone together to do a special under the stars memorial service that I could tell it was heartfelt by all..In short I wanted all the people that has fought for out country to be remembered and be thankful for our freedom of speech.. If it was not for all those men and woman.. there would be no AdultFriendFinder and we would not of met all the wonderful friends we did.

The party was wonderful.. she came all smiles and just sat in one corner all night long..I checked on her frequently hoping to get a conversation going .. but nada..was the perfect host.. asked if all was good and if she needed anything.. she stated all was good..

Well to my shock she went in the chat room and made a comment about people being " trailer trash " and I guess some other comments that hurt peoples feelings after they were very nice to her.

She emailed me saying I should not take it personally..and apologized and she was exercising her "freedom of speech" and reminded me of my speech at the party..
I nicely replied to her that there is a difference between "FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND BEING RUDE and hurtful to people she had no clue of there lives , there work,and there lives out side of AdultFriendFinder..
she stated in an email that we were all desperate and needed a life.....hmmmmmmmmm she typed this via AdultFriendFinder.. doesn't that mean she is a member??

She has sent me several insulting emails and all I could ask her is why did you not just leave instead of staying all night smiling.. hmmmmmmm
a voyeur possibly ???

All I can say is i'm soooooooooo happy I'm not narrow minded.. judge mental..or rude.. I'm not her!

I found out she had other things to be bitter about that had nothing to do with the party and yet she took it out on us..

The fact that she uses the FREEDOM OF SPEECH to hurt people that she knows... is very low..I mean to use the term "Trailer Trash" shows her ignorance of a sterotype..If you live in a trailer that does not make you trash.. I know many wonderful people that live in trailors and live by society and provide for the community
We are not talking Howard Stern here..I do believe in the FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. but do go to some ones home then insult them in a public forum...

Thanks for your time

under the stars
We choose to write
you choose what you comprehend.
read twice and be nice
every key stroke... has a heart beat

sac97vet 71M  
18 posts
6/3/2006 4:55 pm

MRS Muffy Love ya girl you know said something earlier.that hit home.I like to share a story with you..My mother is 95 yrs dad was 92 when he passed a year ago in march..they were married 68 yrs when he passed...the day before the funeral..the minister came over and sat with my mom my bother and I...the minister was going to speak at the funeral parlor the following morning..she turned to me and asked "what do u have to say about your dad"..I told her how I felt,,she then turned to my brother and asked him how he felt about his dad and he told her.....she then turned to this 95 year old woman and said " and what do you have to say about your husband of 68 years " this 4 foot 3 Italian lady right from Italy said "" if ya cant say something nice about someone dont say anything at all "" end of conversation

SacredStarDance replies on 6/3/2006 11:49 pm:
omg... so happy to see you here.. I would of loved your mother
I love you

stonerandsea 48M/51F

6/3/2006 2:47 pm

And this is exactly why I love are the kindest and most forgiving, honest and thoughtful person I have the spirit of an angel!


SacredStarDance replies on 6/3/2006 11:46 pm: both are so warm and loving glad we became friends..

TnWitchyWoman 56F
6852 posts
6/3/2006 1:22 pm

Hi there! We've never chatted and this is the first time I stumbled upon your blog...and did it ever hit home. I live in a double wide now out in the country where folks don't seem to look so much as what you have than who you least if they are talking about "trailer trash" they aren't doing it to my face. I also lived in a tiny little two bedroom single wide for 20 years...some of the happiest times of my life happened there. Funny thing is I came from money and married well the first time. That first marriage was a nightmare. I'll take my life now without hesitation thank you. But what I wanted to tell you is that if I ever hear the word "trailer trash" spoken to me I have a simple come back. I ask them about their home and then say "Well, apparently trash lives in that too because it's trashy to judge someone simply on the outside of their home. Bad things can happen in mansions just as lots of love and comfort can be found in small abodes...but you can't judge a book by it's cover. You have to get in there and see how the people live and love. Blessings to your home and friends who stand by you and love you.

SacredStarDance replies on 6/3/2006 11:44 pm:
you are so right.. wether it is lumber..tin.. brick or on wheels..Home is where you make it .. been in many fancy houses that were not home.
Thanks for comming by

LustyTaurus 48M  
21253 posts
6/2/2006 12:39 am

I'm sorry for the rude and ignorant guest...but on a sunny note, I so hope to partake with you all one day soon......I know Pagan had a blast.

SacredStarDance replies on 6/2/2006 7:05 am:
Thank you... would love to have you


6/1/2006 8:38 pm

What you say is true.. she will most likly lead a misrable life.. I truly, sincerly hope she learned somthing about life and people through all this and it turns out good for her sake.

Thanks for comming by.. miss ya

under the stars
We choose to write
you choose what you comprehend.
read twice and be nice
every key stroke... has a heart beat

seek_my_flame 40F
465 posts
6/1/2006 12:01 pm

Freedom of speach doesn't give anyone the right to be rude,mean and nasty... However, there are too many out there you don't have anything better to do in their lives... Being judgemental feeds them in a way...

You did great, Muf...

ps. I really wish I could join you my friends!

SacredStarDance replies on 6/1/2006 7:43 pm:
omg.. I would love nothing more then my favorite greek Goddesses here to dance under the stars with me...even though you greek lovelies are with me in spirit.
I will never be able to accept rudeness..It says so in my profile there is no excuse for it..she violated people that I love and my home..abusing the Freedom of speech for her ignorance..

come join us.. I need a greek olive oil massage badly.


hisslavegirl 55M/48F

6/1/2006 11:48 am

Hello there,
I do not know you or you group, just happened to cross your profile today. I have learned to ignore this type of ignorance. People today cut down others and the things they do in life because:
1) they are insecure in their own lifestyle or choices, and
2) they are jealous of what others have.

I have been a heavy set person all my life and had to learn the hard way (through all the teasing and name calling not only as a child, but still today as an adult) that inner beauty is stronger and ever lasting, where as outer beauty will one day fade with age and time.
I mean take a look at all these young beautiful bodied ladies in their early 20's, where will they be 50 yrs from now if they have no inner beauty to compliment their outer beauty of today. Or better yet 10 yrs from now after 2-3 babies... not all women get back their perfectly shaped bodies, but does that truly make them any less beautiful.

As I said before I do not know you, but I am truly sorry that someone you treated so graciously, would then turn around and belittle you so. It just goes to show you how ignorant and insecure one can be in one's own life-choices.

I would welcome the opportunity for Jeff and I (Micki) to meet with you and to get to know you and some of your friends. What I have read, alone here today, it sounds like you have a great group of friends here, and who stand behind you all the way.


SacredStarDance replies on 6/1/2006 7:31 pm:
Welcome to the blogs and thanks so much for your comment and support.. and you are dead right about inner beauty and accepting who you are.. now that is true beauty cause you had the strength and wisdom to find it. good for you ! now lets celebrate

firestarter665 42M/39F

5/31/2006 9:04 am

Mrs. Muff- The way you have handled this situation can be described in one word...Classy. For someone to come out and say such rude things makes them the "trash".

SacredStarDance replies on 5/31/2006 11:56 am:
Thanks so much.. I was worried that my behavior was just as bad by blogging it.. but I'm glad I did.. thanks for your support


SpaceRangerNJ 55M
4687 posts
5/31/2006 8:59 am

It seems weird that she would "trash" you and the party goers after you extended your hospitality and made every effort to make sure she was included. And I would like to know why she just didn't pick up and leave if it obviously wasn't for her.
Did she answer that question when you asked.
There are ways to express ones opinion without being mean. She could have expressed her freedom of speech in a much better way.
I'm glad you found out that there were other issues in her life prompting her reactions and comments. It's often that way. Doesn't excuse them but does give you perspective. Maybe they will learn from the process and the dialog you have had with them.
Also glad you have decided to continue the parties.

SacredStarDance replies on 5/31/2006 11:54 am:
I have asked several times.. no answere..I blocked any other emails so thats it.. she took her self out of the group.. and I truly hope she learned somthing by this.. I know I have... I can't let this type of person get to me.. just aint worth it.. I have too many wonderful friends supporting our efforts.



angelofmercy5 59F
17881 posts
5/31/2006 7:47 am

Of all people don't deserve for that to happen to you. I know you open your home and your heart to many...and this just isn't fair. There is a side of me that would like you to reveal this ungrateful gals handle so we can all make her feel real welcome here! I'm sorry.....and glad that it is not going to spoil the wonderful person you are!

SacredStarDance replies on 5/31/2006 11:50 am:
Angel Thank you..
I would never give out a handle.. But I think she has already hurt her rep the chat room.. and I was trying to play big sister and tell her she was really digging her grave when it comes to meeting anyone..No one likes to be judged in a public forum....


Nightguy_1961 55M
4866 posts
5/30/2006 10:57 pm

Now you understand why I keep my Lifestyle semi under wraps....too many times, someone has turned around and stabbed me and others in the back with what we do to express our sexuality....

F*ck her........

NG61....disappearing into the darkness with a bitter taste in his mouth....

SacredStarDance replies on 5/31/2006 11:28 am:
Yes.. I do understand that and its a shame people are so narrow minded I just wonder why the hell did she even came to a party if she knew what it was all about and the diversity.
Thanks.. hope your rested

jd29992z 54M
3888 posts
5/30/2006 10:14 pm

Oooh Mrsmuff that is too bad you had a bad apple at one of your parties. I would give anything to go I bet it is a very fun time. Oh by the way I was raised i a trailer now I have a job making well over 100,000 a year hmmmm maybe trailers make us aspire to greatness. But don't despair there are many of us that are just people looking for something different because we are different. I have been an AdultFriendFinder member off and on for a long time. I ran into this woman that was a psychologist and she had some very hurtful things to say about the men on this site. Hmmmmmmm some of us are just looking for something different something new something out of the ordinary is that wrong? HELL NO it is all right. Thank you Muff for being different then the rest thank all of you for being different then the rest I finally found a place to fit in I love all of you later JD.

SacredStarDance replies on 5/31/2006 11:23 am:
Thank you .. really THANK YOU..I don't really consider it being different .. I feel it's living how you feel and being honest and open minded and accepting folks for who and what they are..We have friends that are trash collectors and some that hold very high profile positions..and when we all come together we have a wonderful time.. but she would of never have known because she sat and watched good folks letting there hair down.
welcome to the group

saddletrampsk 54F

5/30/2006 9:42 pm

What a rude bitch..How dare she insult you after you graciously allowed her into your home..don't let rude ppl like her put a damper on your memories of a great weekend

SacredStarDance replies on 5/31/2006 11:10 am:
I know.. That was the shocker..she was in my home
Thanks so much for stopping by

toothysmile 50M
16515 posts
5/30/2006 8:04 pm

I totally agree with you.
Rudeness has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
Yes, the constitution gives her the right to say whatever she wants. But the constitution also protects the rights of those who might be insulted by her words.

In the end, it 's just best to ignore her. Let her live her life the way she sees fit.

Shall we dance under the stars?...

SacredStarDance replies on 5/30/2006 9:02 pm:

libgemOH 56M/52F

5/30/2006 7:50 pm

Dear swwet sister, the one thing I say about people like that is ,"but for the grace of God, there go I!" I could be that bitter too if I let myself or I can be the lady I am now. I like this lady better!

And I love you just for who you are!!!

And if the bitch keeps bothering you, I got a baseball bat with her name written all over it!!!! Love you!!! -B

SacredStarDance replies on 5/30/2006 7:58 pm:
oh my.. base ball bat..nah were to sweet to resort to violence.. back to the feather dusters.. wooohooo

Thanks hun.. I'm just soooooooooooo sensitive I guess

Djeeper1987 47M

5/30/2006 7:09 pm

Everyone is different in what they say. One person says something and the fold looks the other way. Hundreds of people say the same thing and one looks away.

Rudeness comes in such a fashion that under minds the very idea of what you are trying to do. Bad timing I guess.

If that makes any sense.

Carpe Diem

SacredStarDance replies on 5/30/2006 7:55 pm:
Thanks.. and yes.. It makes perfect sense

WayneMarie4girl 45M/38F

5/30/2006 6:05 pm

It's times like that in which you have to remember all the people that had a good/great time there and not just one with ugly feelings.

SacredStarDance replies on 5/30/2006 7:04 pm:
Your right..and I'm working on this.. putting it all behind me

thanks and glad you came by

rm_pagan380 65M
4405 posts
5/30/2006 5:40 pm

Hey MRS M, It's [blog pagan380] not that guy in Mexico! LOL
Love ya,

Come play naked in the sunshine and dance naked under the stars.


SacredStarDance replies on 5/30/2006 7:03 pm:
oops.. so sorry

JuicyBBW1001 54F

5/30/2006 5:40 pm

I hope you know that one person's opinion doesn't sway the hundreds of others who know and love you for you. Your the bomb MrsMuff and don't ever forget that. Know that you are loved.



SacredStarDance replies on 5/30/2006 7:02 pm:
Juicy I keep reminding myself of that .. but the hypocrits get to me all the time.. but this time they were in my home,, this is personal attacking my friends..
But with support like yours makes it better..
Thanks.. huggssssssssssssssss

nikid_64 52F

5/30/2006 3:23 pm

Didn't that feel good to get that off your chest? The most wonderful thing to come out of all of this was it just made our group closer and everyone circled the wagons around both of you and your home. I agree everyone has the right to voice an opinion, my father fought to give the right to myself and others and I'm grateful, but he also taught me not to abuse it to hurt others. See ya soon, and now I feel better.

SacredStarDance replies on 5/30/2006 3:41 pm:
Thank you..
It does feel better. I was raised if you can't say anything nice.. Don't say anything at all


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