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PhillyFuckClub July Update.
PhillyFuckClub July Update.
This month I wanted to go into some of the decisions that were made based on advice from AdultFriendFinder friends as well as seeing what the other clubs do and personal experiences.
The Personal Ad
The most basic had to do with the personal itself. We could have easily just copied the entries of our fellow FuckClubs. But it's important to have a personal touch. So, first we made sure to follow the basics in the spirit of the other clubs. Then stress the rules that we felt were most important. Also, discuss the things we wanted to do differently.
For example, like fellow clubs, we're invitation only. But a lot of the clubs request that male members don't write. That seemed somewhat unfair to us. Just because you're a man and you write us doesn't mean you should have a mark against you. There a probably a lot of great men out there along with women and couples who wouldn't get noticed unless they send a message. It's part of our job as moderators to look through the messages. All we ask is that men and women do not repeatedly spam us. If you don't get a response, then move on or try again at a far (far) later date.
Then there were some direct decisions. We wanted to make it clear that members have to get STD tested regularly. It was decided to require a solid timetable. Moderators will follow through on reminders. Alcohol is a similar issue. People like to drink when they party. But we don't want people that need to drink to party with us. So we also added a drunkenness clause along with no drugs.
This club is about fun. We thought it was important enough to add along with the other rules.
Some clubs are open with their networks. Others aren't. As we become more organized, we hope to post pictures and bulletins for our private network. So only full members who have undergone initiation are allowed in our friends network. Also, to protect members identities, we will not be visibly showing our friends network. If a member wants to come forward, they can write a testimonial or we'll post something in our personal.
Once we have some private content posted, we'll also be sending invites to fellow FuckClubs to join in the network. But we won't be doing that until we have a good supply of things to offer.
This has been a contentious issue.
We're still working on a good selection of photos and the moderating staff will have to decide what gets posted. We also need members permissions if they're shown in any way in the picture. So we're going slow on this. Of course, personal ads with a picture get noticed a lot more. So what to do?
Many of the starting clubs have been using the same photos. Some people I know have no problem with this. I, as club owner, do have more of a problem. I initially didn't want to use photos of someone who isn't actually in the club. That just seems dishonest. The counter argument is, I have to do what I can to support the club and garner attention as soon as I can.
As a trade off, we made our primary photo non-descriptive. I'm going to be pulling the other photos when I get the chance since I don't think they're appropriate. As soon as we can, we'll be posting photos of actual members participating in actual club activities.
Make no mistake. We are primarily a group for one-on-one interaction. That isn't all we do! Some members want to explore with multiple partners. Members willing, there will be threesomes or more-somes. Occasionally, we will hold group parties. We do mention in our personal that occasionally we will hold group play. But we're a Fuck Club. Not a Swing Club or an Orgy Club.
Look, it's simple. Our members have needs. It's nice to be able to put the call out to people you trust when you have an urge that needs satisfying. Members shouldn't have to wait until the next group session. Instead, they can put a call out on our private forums and hopefully get a response. Further, there is some experimentation that people don't want to have in a group environment or isn't practical. Things like sex in public or private voyerism. Some want to date as well as fuck. Thus, we're a fuck club.
A Secondary Ad
We've been getting some good responses for our first month. Of course, the majority of the messages and views have been from single men. We've been getting quite some reviews and interest from couples. More than I expected. That's been a surprise. To be honest though, I haven't been satisfied with the number of women visiting our personal. We've gotten a few, and the reviews so far have been positive. For example, XxXfObiDdInXxX was kind enough to send us back some correspondence. "I think that it's absolutely wonderful that you respect the women and not just pick someone that has a big dick. Someone that won't quit doing something when she says no. That's Amazing."
Of course our size will generally be determined by the quality and willingness of women to join the club. I was discussing this with a female friend over AIM earlier in the week. What follows will, I think, show how important it is to get input from the feminine side.
In her opinion, one part of our problem was the fact that we're listed as a group. Of course, in a moment of denseness, I replied, "But we are a group." Then she explained that's why we're not getting as many views as we could. She recognized that, as a straight man, I never really look at the ads of other men. But she browses them all the time. It's not unheard of for what are really groups to list themselves as "men." Just like couples might have an AdultFriendFinder ad as a couple but also have ads as individuals.
I started to follow because I responded to ads of women who were listed as individuals. Then I find out a month later the woman really wanted me to have a three some with their male partner. One hat included him performing on me. Now, I don't mind if that's what they're looking for. I was just disappointed the couple wasn't honest about it from the beginning. It would have saved a lot of time.
As I described this experience to her, she reminded me that their approach had gotten a response it normally wouldn't have. It was something similar with the groups who list as single men. Some are honest about it and make it clear in their ad. Some try to recruit after a solo encounter. Since I never really browsed those ads, I wouldn't have known this. For example, it was she that found the NJFuckClub which is listed as a single man. I had been looking for fellow clubs listed as groups.
So she suggested we put up a parallel ad listed as a single male. Since we are primarily for one-on-one meeting with screened single partners, we might get women to view us who wouldn't normally be looking for groups. Also, as women do searches and browse single men, they'll see our personal more often.
On her advice, we started an ad on the single male side of AdultFriendFinder. This probably won't be a permanent fixture though. We'll keep it up for the next month as part of our drive to find new members. Also, to test out my friends theory. Then we'll disable that ad and keep our main group ad up most of the time. Only reactivating our secondary ad when we're on a recruitment drive. (Assuming that what she suggested actually works).
We Need You...
First, we need to spread the word. So, if you like our ad, like what the club stands for, and think we deserve a chance, vote! Most people just vote for the picture. But when you vote up a member you're also voting up the ad! The reason we ask this is not for ego. We just want to increase our visibility and have more people view our ad. The more women that see our ad and give the club a shot, the more space we'll have available for all the men that want to join. And part of my job is to promote the club.
Secondly, as I said, the size of the club will be primarily determined from our female member base. Just because there are less women on AdultFriendFinder than men. So, if you're a sensual attractive young woman or know fellow attractive young women who might want to find out about the club, let them know.
I'll be back in a month to tell you how it's going.
Quote of the Month
"Don't you know what it means to become an orgy guy? It changes everything. I'd have to dress different. I'd have to act different. I'd have to grow a mustache and get all kinds of robes and lotions and I'd need a new bedspread and new curtains I'd have to get thick carpeting and weirdo lighting. I'd have to get new friends. I'd have to get orgy friends.
"Naw, I'm not ready for it."
From "The Switch"; Season 6.