There's something happening here....what it is ain't exactly clear...  

Nightguy_1961 55M
3324 posts
6/21/2006 3:44 am

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There's something happening here....what it is ain't exactly clear...

Could someone please tell me just what in the hell is going on around here?

Seems to me that I'm seeing a lot of fakery going on here in the blogs.

First, it's OC getting jumped on his blog...for God's knows what reason...accused of being a fake or worse.

Then, you've got some on here that love to play 'create-a-profile-a-day'...just to fool people in the chat rooms, blogs, whatever...

Don't even bring up the subject of bots...

Then I read of a wild ass hoax that fooled the bloggers in CT...and for what? A laugh? Give me a f*ckin' break...

Now, there is a debate over whether a blogger from here has actually passed away or if it's a big hoax. I don't know if it is or not, and quite frankly...I don't care if it's fake...I was told about it, I expressed my condolences, end of story. What more can I do - go find out for myself? Not my f*ckin' job...

I cannot speak for others, but I can speak for me: I'm about as real as it gets.

But wait a minute...that's just my word. What to do...what to do...what to do...

Well, you could contact my lady, she probably knows how real I am...wait a minute, that's not good. Some of you might think that I've created her profile to throw people off somewhat...

I know, talk to wickedeasy; she met us a week or so ago...she can vouch that I'm, you wouldn't think her word is good either...

I could list all the people I've talked to on the phone, emailed, snail mailed, or sent smoke signals to...but what good would it do?

For you see, the fakes have ruined it for us all. We are now to the point that we really don't trust anyone, now aren't we? Too many bots...too many fakers...too many liars.

And I have just about given up, to be honest.

Makes me long for my days working the door at the strip least there, I knew what was fake and what was real.

I guess what I'm trying to say for myself and all of us who know that we are real: If you don't buy the fact that we're real...then all I can do is give you a stiff middle finger and tell you to take a long walk off a short pier, because at this point in my life, I don't have to prove a damn thing to a damn soul...except me.

And no...contrary to what some people worry about, I'm not going to give the troublemakers an audience. I will probably be shutting this blog down soon...I am just tired of it all right now.

©NG61 2006

PurplePeach72 44F  
9199 posts
6/21/2006 3:55 am

Dear NG,

Please don't leave us. There are alot of us here who are real, and you know those people are real by the interactions you have with us, on and off this site. No matter where you go or what you do there will always be people trying to fake or fool someone else. It is the nature of the beast, but please don't turn the Dark Fortress over to them. What matters most is the people that love and care about you and your lady here.

I view the fakers here the way I do the ones in life, it is only their loss. If I give a dollar to a homeless man who is really a millionaire beggar, is my blessing from giving any less, NO, only his sin is greater. If I offer solace to a person here who seems to be in pain, it is only their sin, not mine. I try to do the right thing, no matter what the motives of the other person. I just think of how awful I would feel if that beggar or that person's loved one really did die and I did not offer anything when I could have, then I am the one in the wrong.

Please don't leave the blogs, so many have gone or are going, we need to stand tall against the fakes, and bots, not fold b/c of their deceptions. I know it is sickening but they will reap what they sow. Take care and know that some of us are real, and we do care deeply!
With love to all the real bloggers in pain and need,


Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 10:49 pm:

I hear you and thanks...maybe my next post will explain a lot about what is going on...


chasingfun27 38M
1108 posts
6/21/2006 4:00 am

You can only believe in what you see for yourself, and even then it's questionable.

How much you care is up to you.

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 10:49 pm:
True, but when what is here spills over into real life.....

curious082385 31F
4925 posts
6/21/2006 4:24 am

I truly hope that you won't go, but I would understand your reasons if your make that choice. Truth be told I have been considering leaving as well. I have seen things in the last few months that have darkened my opinion of this place and some people. However, I still see so much here that is good and that has what has held me here this long. We'll see.

I was thinking about this earlier today as well...when you live thousands of miles away from the people who are questioning you, how do you prove that you are real? And then again, you can lie to the people you meet in real life too.

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 10:51 pm:

You are right, as usual....

As I've stated to others, there is just a lot going on right now in our real lives, and that's been weighing heavy on both of our minds...


fancy_for_you 39F
3014 posts
6/21/2006 4:36 am

NG, please please don't go! I myself have thought about leaving because of the fakes around here. I guess I come from the old school of if you say you are real I believe until you do something yourself to prove otherwise.

I know if you leave I will miss you terribly. Your blog has become a place of learning and enjoyment in my life which truely hasn't had much before. Your blogs help me stop and really think about your lifestyle and about wether I am ready for the next step in my own training. You and OC's in one way or another have taught me that the lifestyle is nothing to take lightly and that there is more to it than what the critics say. If you leave then the critics win a little bit of ground by default....don't give them the satisfaction please.

Hoping that you stay around and keep your blog going.



Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 10:52 pm:

Okay...I'll stick around...if you can stand having me...

papyrina 51F
21133 posts
6/21/2006 4:41 am

i'm real lol and no plastic in me yet what so ever and at least 10 bloggers who were all in Holand can say they have sen me plus half a dozen or so guys i've dated

We are having problems in greek chat from too many fakes ,but we seem to be sorting it out nicely

I'm a

i'm here to stay

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 10:54 pm:

I'm glad that you folks are getting things straight in your chat room...good.


BaronessK 52F

6/21/2006 4:42 am

If you were not real, I would not be reading your blog; it would not be on my 'watched' list. I would not read Lady's blog nor have her on my list if I did not feel the same way. If you two were not real, I would not be saddened by Sir Smudge's passing.

Please do not leave. May I request that, feeling as you do, you merely take a 'break', of sorts {if you must do something to distance yourself from what was an enjoyment}? Please. You would be missed....

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 10:55 pm:

I will be taking a break from here soon enough...I just felt like all this BS was a bit overwhelming...


GoddessOfTheDawn 105F
11238 posts
6/21/2006 4:44 am

I have just a few minutes ago posted.... and a part of my post is

I want to say many things, all kinds of things, yet don't know what to say that will make any difference to anyone. I've read a lot, my mind is running in many different directions. My heart is in one place. Solid and in support.

I have dealt with many and still regularly deal with those who tell me and others I'm a fake. I've had fakes telling others they were ME. I could go on but won't (I CHOOSE not to). Your post is powerful and I thank you for it.

I have the same feelings you have. All I can say is that I really hope you won't leave and find the good things curious is referring to. Go read elysianpleasure's post about getting along, it's such a good one....

and let's try not to forget the good that still really IS here. And YOU, my friend, if you don't mind me calling you that, are PART of that good!

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 10:56 pm:

I read elysian's post and it was more thing to take into account

Thank you....for a lot that cannot be mentioned here...

phoenix639 49F

6/21/2006 4:52 am

Dont let the bad guys win babes.

I gave up on meeting people from AdultFriendFinder due to the timewasters, fakes, liars & no shows but after a rethink i thought im doing myself an injustice not them.

I know how you feel over the fakes & bots & multi-profilers, they really do get you down at times.

But whats the answer? All the good people leave due to being pissed off & then the site is full of the scourge that prey on peoples wallets/purses!!

Maybe one day that could happen (doubt it) & management will get off their arses & do something about it.

No matter how often people click review or report someone nothing is done over it.

Its clear they find it amusing.

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 10:58 pm:

You are right about what this site would be like if all the 'good' folks left and what would happen afterwards...

It's just been a tough couple of weeks here in real time...and the drama just didn't help...

The blogs are where I can be myself...period. I just felt like this was getting tainted slightly...

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:00 pm:
and thank you, btw.....damn, I can't believe I forgot my manners...must be losing my mind....

libgemOH 56M/52F

6/21/2006 5:04 am

L, One thing I've found about this place is that it is easy to hide behind the anonymity of the internet. But I've also found out that the fakes are all weeded out eventually. We don't have to do a thing and they end up just going away.

Please don't let the fakes ruin it for you and especially for us, the ones who read and absorb and learn what you have to tell us. I enjoy reading you daily too much to let you go without these words and letting you know.

My first husband, although a bit of an idiot, had a saying that holds true here. He used to say, "I don't care what others may think they know about me, I know the truth, God knows the truth and who gives a shit what they think they know!!" -B

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:01 pm:

I'll try...but you know how tough it can get at times...


freetime648 52F

6/21/2006 5:08 am

Well.....that is as real as it gets and I hope you do not shut down...we need more people like you around here right now...this place has gotten in my opinion...but now I just opened the door to criticism as well...cannot win for losing ...

*** goes off in a fog of bewilderment

xx FREETIME648 xx

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:28 pm:

I guess what amazed me was that both sides in the Brian passing away are both convinced that they are right...somewhere in the middle, the truth lies....


EroticaXTC 49F

6/21/2006 5:24 am

the dogs of war--pink floyd

Don't go Night. This too shall pass....
and So I stay closer to my own blog, my home, and try not too roam too far...embrace what I know is real...because we all have to be able to feel...try to let the sun set on what is most painful the night, where you dwell, look to the sky and see the glistening stars...constant, gleaming, speaking...

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:30 pm:

I hear you, my dear lady...but when I read as many blogs as I do, one tends to get drawn into what is going on at times...whether by their comments, or their opinions...

but I am a fast learner....people would hate it if I went back to my DTA (Don't Trust Anybody ) attitude...including myself...

Thanks, and as always, a pleasure to see you here...

GossipJunkie 40F

6/21/2006 5:27 am

It would be a loss if you were to shut down your blog.

On a selfish note, I would hate to think my seven hour stretch of reading this past weekend would have been all I would ever read of your words.

"Dance like nobody's watching"

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:34 pm:

Okay...I wouldn't do that to you...just was a bit fed up with the damn drama going on around here...that's all


rm_shannee2006 52F
3355 posts
6/21/2006 5:34 am

Well I guess that I'm not so in on the details of all this fakery stuff. I haven't had anyone accuse me of being fake, nor even been witness to conversations about it until today...and frankly I thought Elysian's post was about himself and not this stuff about others until today. I take people on face value and I don't worry about the currents of relationships that go on between other people around me. I take em as they come. If they shit on me, I warn and if they don't behave, I ban em and I don't visit their blog anymore. End of story for me.

This way of dealing with people keeps it really simple for me and I don't get caught in drama as a the point that I don't even know there is drama until someone talks this bluntly about something that's gone unnoticed by me until I read it. I don't know if that's a better way to deal with things, but it's more peaceful for me...and in the end, like you said NG, you can't control what anyone else does, so why engage at all with that sorta thing on any level? My two cents on that subject, but on the subject of you leaving?

Well that would truly bum me out. I really enjoy your writing. I learn from you and I like the community that's gathered around you. Many of the people that I've come to like I "met" because of reading your blog. I hope you don't let other's behavior sour you on the good stuff and the good people that are here.

Yup...this juiciness is from me....


Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:36 pm:

I tend to open my soul out to others when I think they are hurt...trouble is, I usually end up the one getting burned.

Trust me, you don't want to get drawn into this is ugly. A lot of others here know what I'm talking about....

Thanks for your comments...I do appreciate them....

Fox4aKnight1 43F

6/21/2006 6:13 am

Hugs L it happens ...... I know you are fed up might wanna take a break from time to time....that is what I do. hugsssssss

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:37 pm:

Don't worry...I'll be taking a break from here soon, if only for a little while...


MWWwantmore 51F

6/21/2006 6:23 am

I hope you dont leave, I enjoy your blog.

Now dont think I am a fake, my normal profile MWWwantsmore was temorarily deactivated so I started this one just to blog. I am hoping people are not thinking that about me

I'll have a cafe, mocha, vodka, valium latte to go please!

Good girls go to heaven.....bad girls go down!!

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:38 pm:

I never thought you were fake...I just met you. I tend, like others, to give people the benefit of the doubt, until they do something to lose my trust...

Thanks for your comments....

rm_PeanutJackie 35F
1286 posts
6/21/2006 7:13 am

NG i'm sorry to hear you say you are thinking about shutting down. You have provided many laughs, smiles, and so much knowledge for all of us. It would be a very sad day if you left. But i do understand how you feel, and support you in whatever decision you make.


"I am beautiful no matter what you say, words can't bring me down. So don't you bring me down today."

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:40 pm:

My words were more of a rant...a lashing out at the drama, if you will.

I will be taking a break from here soon...more to follow later on...


NakedTwister68 48M

6/21/2006 7:16 am

I just started reading the blogs and I don't know the details. Don't really care either. The way I figure it is that this is a fantasy entertainment site and you get out of it what you put in. From what I have seen in this and other chat rooms, a lot of people put garbage in and that is all they get from it. They come in wanting to argue and that is what they get. They come in saying they have a 20" cock and they get the BBW guy pretending to be a size 0 blond with 34B-32-34 measurements. You have to give some quality to get quality results. Maybe I spent a little too much time on chat rooms where 99% of the users are bots and their rooms are useless, but I have been pleased here. I can't say I have found a friend for life on here, but thats OK because I am having fun looking.

The thing about a virtual meeting place is that it simulates reality. I am honest in my description of myself and how I look, but it doesn't surprise me when someone says they are a dress size or 2 lower, weigh a few pounds more or may be more BBW than average. Their description resembled reality and it works for them. I also never equate what is said on-line to what will happen in reality. I am sure we have all had an about face when we met someone who didn't meet our expectations in reality. Just happens.

Probably most people on here are looking for attention -- Some just think the only way they can get it is to be something they are not or by behaving badly. Don't waste your time on the ones who aren't worth it. I have a huge iggy list and have only been chatting for a month or 2.

Well, if I keep on, I will have a reply longer than the original post Everyone, just lighten up, have fun, and be as cautious as you would in real life. The pain can be the same if you don't.

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:42 pm:

Thanks and welcome to the Fortress...

I, along with my lady and others, have strived to be as honest as we can be with our profiles, our words, and our actions here. Granted, I understand that a lot of people have to be a bit cagey with personal details due to jobs, family, and the like.

But it is those who set out to deceive that get me...bring me down. What profit is gained by doing so? If it is to gain attention, then I hope I never get that desperate.

Thanks again for your comments...

rm_kelli4u2dew 41F
5220 posts
6/21/2006 7:42 am

And who, my friend, is your blog for? For me? For Maggie, or GOTD? Or do you write for you? If it stops giving you pleasure, then of course do something else with your time. I'm sure your lady can think of a few things to occupy your time ...

Personally, I don't care if you're a fake or not. The person behind the profile and the picture is kind to me, educates me, entertains me. And you've never asked me for my credit card number ...


Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:44 pm:

If I could blush, I'd be doing so right about now...

Thanks...and you're right, my lady can think of things to occupy my packing

I am glad that you consider me your friend...that means a lot to me, thanks...

and no, I don't want your credit card number......and if you have to ask what I'm interested in, then you worry me

Thanks, my friend....

ohcurious14 59M
1683 posts
6/21/2006 7:49 am

While I do share in your sentiments NG, I just plain outright refuse to let the "Cowards behind big words"take me away from something I have come to love doing, blogging.
In my opinion, and mind you it is only my opinion, the people starting all this crap are insecure,non-caring,drama seeking idiots.It is out of jealousy of attention they are not getting, or for the notoriety they so desperately want that they toss aside any and all consideration for what their words may do or actually say.All these people it seems are either jealous,narrow-minded,judgemental,hippocrites,or just plain clueless. So what do they do? They seek out us in order to take someone down with them.I do not want to feed them fuel to keep coming back for more but I won't remain silent either, i'll just gingerly address the issue and go silent when it's time.I never doubted for a minute that your not real. I hope you do not ever shut down your blog but do understand why you would want to. I think all of us bloggers at some point go through that feeling. This guy supports you in whatever decision you make.

Ohcurious14- aimlessly wandering & curious

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:48 pm:

I guess I just was tired of those individuals who have over-inflated sense of their self worth causing problems for a lot of people here that I regard as friends...and I just wanted to walk away from it all.

But after a day's sleep and talking with some friends...I have thought about it and reached this conclusion:

No way in hell I'm going to let the bastards win...


PrincessKarma 43F
6188 posts
6/21/2006 8:29 am

For what it's worth, I believe you're real.

I choose to believe the people here are real until I am given sufficient proof to the contrary.

The Big Bang was the mother of all orgasms.PrincessKarma

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:53 pm:

I think you're pretty real, too.


ButteryDelight 58F

6/21/2006 9:10 am

I choose to take people at their word until they have proven to be false. I choose to believe that you are real. It would be too difficult to pretend you aren't what you are, for the great length of time that you have been here. I understand your discouragement. There are always going to be people out there who choose to ruin things for the rest of us. But, if you leave, NG, you will only be letting them get their sick satisfaction. Why do you care what they think anyway? YOU know you are real, that you are who you say you are.

I too suggest you take a break from all the drama seekers and spoilers, refresh your spirit with some time away.

If you leave I will be unhappy. I will miss reading your blog as it is on my Watched Blogs list. I have found the reading to be very informative and helpful. I thank you for the knowledge you have so selflessly gave to me and others.

Buttery Delight

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:56 pm:

It was just getting to be a bit much, listening to the 'he said, she said BD' in one particular there is a personal matter involving my blog that has been weighing on my mind over the past month or so that was really getting me down.

But I will be taking a break from the blogs in a little while...for something good...stay tuned...


sexyariesgirl 57F

6/21/2006 9:22 am

I only recently began visiting your blog NG. I don't always leave a me a lurker if you I don't mean to lurk....but sometimes I just don't have a comment. I enjoy your blog and would miss you of you left. I understand that is a very personal decision, however. I guess because I'm honest and upfront I assume that others are too. I prefer to look for the good in people until they prove differently. Just my thoughts, for what they are worth. HUGGS.....

Power To FOK

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:57 pm:

Nothing wrong with lurking...I tend to do it myself...for the same reasons...nothing worthy to put into a comment.

I guess I was feeling that I was being criticized (elsewhere) for being a bit open with people...



6/21/2006 10:02 am

You have mail. Considering departure myself, I have seen the best of a beautiful thing and I don't want to see the worst...seen to much of that in my life! Kisses

just a squirrel trying to get a nut

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/21/2006 11:59 pm:

Now if you leave, that will be a was your blog that made me get to know you, along with my lady.

You have always made me smile, made me think, and, at times, made me horn....err, never mind

I got your mail...thank you...can't wait. Not sure about August though, with what will be happening next month, but we'll keep it in mind.


MaggiesWishes 59F

6/21/2006 10:26 am

*joins the voices of others* Stay, please, with southern sug'ah on it?

I know ya'll are the REAL DEAL! I know both your voices and the warmth, kindness and reality poured through the phone lines.

IF we seek reality, we have to go through the "cow paddies" sometimes to get there ... just kick it off ya boots and keep going.
YOU guys would be sorely missed. Even tho I know we will always be connected as friends, it's still my joy to come here, and know that I am welcomed as a friend

AS for me ... yes, it's entertainment, a place to be without status on a totem pole, a niche that I can scratch, a learning tool from real life folks and a voice that echoes mine, when I feel the need to voice back ... this little band of Blogville friends are there.

If people are so insecure that they have to fabricate their lives for attention, so be it. It only effects you, if you let it.
YOU owe NO one an explanation for your actions ... YOU let us share a glimpse of who you are ... not what you are.

Too bad we all can't contribute to a "kiddy pool" and purchase our own "SITE" for the dip into security.

I am but a small voice added to the larger sound of this circle ... please let me be heard
Extra warm huggies 2ya, Dark One

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 12:00 am:
Bright One,

You know you couldn't get rid of me that easy...once you've become part of my lady's & my circle of friends, you're stuck...

Thanks for your words...they really do mean a lot

Dark Hugs to you, my friend

mattbrim69 45M

6/21/2006 10:42 am


Fake on here i can deal with. It's the fakes that stand in front of us that pisses me off. There is always going to be fake people to deal with no matter what. Just deal with the ones on here as you do in the rest of the world, Disregard them and move on.

* matt holding his head high and walking away *

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 12:07 am:

Trust don't even want to know how I deal with fakes in real time....

Thanks for your comments...btw, did you see the post I did about the Code of Chivalry? Just wondering....

NGs_lady 64F
762 posts
6/21/2006 10:55 am

My Love

I know what is going on i beg of you do not quit. These a--es have taken enough from you. Please do not let them winn. Continue to do your blogs. We enjoy reading what you write. Do not take this away from us.

Your lady

Hugs and love

NGs_lady / Lady Stee

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 12:14 am:
My Lady,

How could I ever refuse you...especially after you broke your silence and posted what you did on your blog?

For that, I am eternally grateful.....

*hugs her tightly*

Shameless_Biotch 48F

6/21/2006 11:53 am

Oh darling, I have been on the recieving end of being called a fake by others, especially after I HAD to change my profile/handle after that whole stalking incident...but I know I'm real.I have several people I've met at meet and greets , or personally, that could vouche for how REAL I can be, even got pix and a cam to "prove it"...I used to tell those doubting asshole people that,

"I'm the realest fake person you'll never meet!!"

it's THEIR loss, you know!

Don't let the assholes and turkeys, fakers and game players get you to stop blogging, it would be a great loss, to me personally, and to others who have already expressed it here, dear.
You are a source of inspiration, and real, down-to-earth info on WWITWD....there would be a tremendous void if you have become a friend here in Blogville, and I appreciate your contributions, I watch your blog all the timeand appreciate your comments on mine

My dark sage, gather the forces of light and playfulness around you, and scare off/banish the boogeyman fakers and bots from your mind, so we can bask in your beautiful words of wisdom, caring and inspiration...
Take a break, we all need one from time to time, but
do not shut the Dark Fortress permanently!!

and besides, you can't leave yet, I am still waiting for my storyLOL

*hugs and good thoughts sent your way*

Your Shameless Pupil
*disappearing in a cloud of cherry blossoms*

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 12:24 am:

For the life of me, how could anyone call you fake? I can't see it.

I just needed to vent, that's all. I've made the decision that no one can't make me leave here...not yet anyway.

And yes, your story will be posted, trust me always...

lightswitch1963 68M/53F

6/21/2006 12:54 pm

Mrs.L here, speaking for myself, I consider you a dear friend. I don't waant to lose any friends. We have run into ssooo many fakes, but the good people far outway the assholes. It's always the assholes that ruin it for the good people. Let them be miserable on their own. We state in our profile that we want to swap, turns out to be a man that his wife has no idea!! All of our friends are in blogland. Mr.L says you have a point, blogland was safe. We just need for the honest and the good not to let the creeps and wierdos to take over.If you go, take a piece of our hearts that we offer.

The light will always be on for you, unless the wierdos run us off, much love.


Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 12:25 am:
Thanks to the both of you...I do appreciate your comments and your kind thoughts...

It is a shame when the assholes get the most publicity, now isn't it?

Thanks again...

rm_DarkenMist 105F

6/21/2006 1:01 pm

Greetings Nightguy,
You and lady have talked to Me on the phone. I know Your 100% real.I do miss our IM chats since Your IM quit working. I do understand where Your coming from on wanting to quit....but let Me ask You some questions....would You really stop Your blogs knowing You have friends here? Would You stop teaching through Your blogs and quit the learning process from those that need or want it not knowing where to go to gain such knowledge? would You stop giving Your friends laughter and tears through You sharing a part of Your life and soul? I know You spend alot of time on Your blogs and read it several times till Your satisfied.You spend alot of time and effort on them. I am not going to beg and plead with You to stay the choice is Yours to make. I just ask that You think long and hard before just throwing in the towel and regretting it later. I will always remain Your friend and respect the decision You make.
*hugs You and lady then walks deep into the shadows*

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 12:27 am:

As always, you have a way of cutting right through to get to the heart of the matter. I thank you.

Yes, you have talked to both of us in the past...and we both miss those calls...hopefully, I can get my IM working soon.....

They can't make me leave, only I can do that...and I've still got some fight left in me...

Thanks, my dear friend...

HBowt2 58F

6/21/2006 1:49 pm

NG...don't you dare let them win.....Ive never spoken to you or chatted on IM...but you are real to if you leave I will chase you down and tie you to the computer....

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 12:29 am:

Well, I certainly don't want to be tied to my laptop...could get uncomfortable after awhile LOL


mysticdreamangel 60F
2759 posts
6/21/2006 3:49 pm


This morning I was running extremely late for work but since I started reading your words they have become my morning coffee prior to going to work at the law firm. I read your blog this AM knowing I was going to be at least 20 minutes late for work and I went numb when I read it. It is now 6:31 PM and I have only been home from work for 6 minutes and I just had to write.

Your sadness and anger regarding fakes has had me upset all day. Why can't people just let those of us that like to share our thoughts do so...what have we done to offend them? My answer...jealousy, uneducated, and insecure. Please, NG don't let them win! I have only been reading your words for a few short weeks and I have learned from you, cried with you, laughed with you, and you have made me feel alive again. Reading the comments posted since getting home I can see you do that for so many and you cannot let the trash win.

I do agree with those that have said that perhaps you should take a break but as your Lady said..."don't let them win!"

There is a James Blunt song that I'm sure each and everyone of us would sing to you to let you know we are all here for you when you need a friend!


I have seen peace. I have seen pain.
Resting on the shoulders of your name.
Do you see the truth through all their lies?
Do you see the world through troubled eyes?
And if you want to talk about it anymore,
Lie here on the floor and cry on my shoulder,
I'm a friend.

I have seen birth. I have seen death.
Lived to see a lover's final breath.
Do you see my guilt? Should I feel fright?
Is the fire of hesitation burning bright?
And if you want to talk about it once again,
On you I denpend. I'll cry on your shoulder,
You're a friend.

You and I have been through many things.
I'll hold on to your heart.
I wouldn't cry for anything.
Just don't go tearing your life apart.

I have seen fear. I have seen faith.
See the look of anger on your face.
And if you want to talk about what will be.
Come and sit with me, and cry on my shoulder,
I'm a friend.
And if you want to talk about it anymore,
Lie here on the floor and cry on my shoulder,
I'm a friend.

NG, your eyes are the mirror to your soul and in looking at them in your photos I truly believe that you are real and if you are so is your Lady. Again, please don't let them win...we need you!


Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 12:31 am:

Wow...thank you...I really don't know what to say. I am humbled that my mere words have such an effect on those who read them.

Thank you so very much...I do appreciate this...

Twister2bed 47M
617 posts
6/21/2006 4:53 pm

Well I'm as real as you get, To real for some.
I have had my share of aholes on my blog and email I just use the delete button and there history.
I'm here to enjoy myself and relax, I won't let tards chase me out.

I never thought you were fake NG I always enjoy the read, And I'd hate to see you leave but you need to do whats best for you.

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 12:32 am:

Thanks...I've heard how you deal with the troublemakers *grins*

I'm not leaving quite yet, but I will be taking a break sometime in the next few weeks, for personal reason....

Thanks again...

complexlysimple 34M

6/21/2006 5:04 pm

well I dunno if this will get read or not ... but like pondered many times before .. What is real? I am real, are you real? ... at this point I can say it doesn't matter to me anymore I'll just take things as they are and if someone wants to cause problems that's fine with me ...right up to the point they start hurting someone... that's when the line gets drawn and it becomes time to get involved .. excuse me I think I'm headed back to my blog before I make this response really long...

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 12:33 am:

Trust me...your comments got read and thank you.

You seem to have a sense of honor about you...for that I salute you.

Thanks for your comments...

wickedeasy 66F  
25463 posts
6/21/2006 5:13 pm

hello my dear friend - i am choosing not to look at comments right now so forgive me if i say something someone else has said and or said better

fuck 'em

period, end of story

i know YOU
i love YOU

fuck 'em

You cannot conceive the many without the one.

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 12:34 am:
wicked, one said anything as eloquent as you, my friend *grins*

But I hear you....and thanks....

We love you too

OboesHonedIambs 62F

6/21/2006 5:29 pm

Awshit, NG, it's suck to see you shut down your blog over all this mess.

The fact that we're real does make us susceptible to others who try scamming us. Right now, we don't have a way of sorting out who's right or who's wrong; but there's sure a lot of opinions going on. And those opinions are bringing out reactions that are not realistic nor in control. Right now, I think people should stop re-acting.

If someone was hoaxing us, then us continuing to "re-act"(including doing things like stop blogging), just feeds their jollies. I figure if we just DO what we real folks are normally good at doing, then this little corner of blogville will be just fine.

Instant Human -- Just Add Coffee

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 12:40 am:

I hear you...I just needed to blow off some steam that had been building...and this latest drama over whether someone has died or not was just a bit over the top...


twoofusincbus 53M/50F
75 posts
6/21/2006 5:56 pm

Jeez, NG... It must of taken you a lot of work to
set up fake profiles for all these people to corroborate
your alleged reality.

Man, I just started reading your stuff... Don't go!

J (M and I are pretty real... There are a couple of folks who can corroborate that!)

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 1:47 am:
Thank you and welcome to the Fortress...

You are libgemOH's friends....I read her blog about you...glad to meet you...

yes, it was a lot of hard work setting up all those fake profiles, you know?

Thanks...I appreciate y'all stopping by...

runzwithknives 59F

6/21/2006 7:18 pm

Exactly. Thank you. I choose to believe in real, good, kind, well intentioned...until finding out otherwise. It costs nothing, absolutely nothing to be kind. It was upsetting to read. I don't play well with others anyway in this the drama arena. So I won't.

I don't know you well enough to comment on shutting your blog. Ultimately the decision to leave or not leave is yours. Make the right for you. Hugs

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 1:48 am:

I don't deal well with a lot of drama kings and queens either, I think that's why I blew a gasket with this blog....

Thanks and welcome to the Fortress, if I haven't said so before...

peaches19555 61M

6/21/2006 7:42 pm

Do not worry if you can not tell the wheat from the chaff. Gather them together and spread equally on the threshing floor. Lofted in the air even the gentliest breeze sorts them out.

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 1:49 am:

It's like what ShayeDK and others say...the truth shall set you free...


LustyTaurus 48M  
21253 posts
6/21/2006 7:59 pm

yeah nice post...but when you worked the door at the strip club, could you really tell the fakes??...when I was a bouncer, I usually had to cop a feel to know for sure..I didn't mind, and most of the time they didn't long as I warned em first...and that was just the Transexuals. The Boob jobs were even harder to tell.

Just asking...

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 1:51 am:
You know, LT...

You were a smart ass in a previous life, you're a smart ass in this life...and you'll be a smartass in the next life...

I think that's why we get along so well...

Now if we could get Trav to join up, we'd have the 3 Musketeers...what do you think?

Thanks...I needed that...

and I used up close and personal inspection on all boob jobs at the strip club, though back then...boob jobs were few and far between


6/21/2006 8:00 pm

Please don't go.. I guess I'm missing so much around here..
We.. Hubby and I are as real as you and your lady.. I felt both of your pain with the passing Of Sir smudge..I can tell you both are very real.. with your writings.. as with many others..

I truly believe you can tell by the writing..and the sincerity of the words..and i also can tell when there not sincere but there really not hurting anyone unless they are trying to meet some one in real life..

Then the ones that just bring there fantasy life to entertain us and nothing just does not bother me..unless they are rude and are out to hurt some one..

I have been told I was fake to my face at a m&g.. only because I can be a flirt slut on line but I'm a lady in a public place..go figure..
basically I'am what I write..I just don't write about personal hardships.. nor do I go run and tell a real life friend..
so there you go..

I adore you and your lady... please don't go

under the stars
We choose to write
you choose what you comprehend.
read twice and be nice
every key stroke... has a heart beat

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 1:53 am:
Mrs. Muff,

I can understand about real life vs. here...people who meet me in real time think I'm the shyest person they've ever met...until we get to know each other....then all bets are off...along with the panties

Thanks....we adore you two as well....

Kancana 46F

6/21/2006 9:34 pm

I enjoy your blogs, leave them or you can voice it hear or let the AdultFriendFinder site banned those IDIOT.

Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.
~ Helen Keller

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 1:53 am:
Thank you kancana...I think my latest post says it all

MamChelle 48F  
1443 posts
6/21/2006 11:39 pm

i know that You and lady are very real...i would miss Y/you both..but i understand. i have felt like the bs here was over whelming myself occasionally. i just came to the conclusion of not taking it so hard and laughing at the drama and bullshit instead of internalizing any of it. Your so unless these folks are willing to come and see for themselves does anyone prove they are as they say they are..i for one welcome meeting folks from here. i love it when they walk up to me, and ask "don't i know you from somewhere?" i am not afraid to wear that damn AdultFriendFinder t-shirt. i am candid enough to look them in the eyes and say yeah from here or some of the other sites i frequent. But i don't have anything to loose, i don't have any obligations that could cause a problem...most in my real life know that i am who and what i say i am here in my blogs and in chat. Ya get chelley real or not at all and i have come to the place where i care very little about the games and bs here!!

But i do care about the welfare of my F/friends. i care that You and lady are well and happy. That being said, if leaving makes You happier i will so miss You, but i have You wisdom and the respect and love i feel for both You and lady in my heart, and the end of a phone line...someday i do hope to have You and She in a long over due embrace...but as She stated in one of our conversations...not everyone has the money to fly here and go there all the time..eventually though i plan on connecting with A/all the wonderful LS F/friends i have made here...You and She are at the top of my no matter what You choose know i care and will miss Y/you both, here. *hugs and hope* chelle.

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 1:55 am:
We're not going to leave quite yet....just we might be taking a break from here in a few weeks for something important...

Thanks for your words...and I know you're real...too bad some others that we all three know aren't who they really are...

rm_Melciber 61M
214 posts
6/22/2006 1:44 am

Just lending my support NG.

I enjoy reading your writting as I have told you in the past.
I enjoy reading what others write here too.
I hate having the wool pulled over my eyes, but I can´t hold on to those feelings for long.

Looking forward to whatever the universe brings. . .

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/26/2006 12:51 am:
Thanks Mel...I appreciate that....

rm_PurryKitty2 48M/49F
9753 posts
6/22/2006 11:09 am

Being the positive person I am, I am going to hope that Brian's death is not fake, but I have to tell you there are too many similiarities to the same tale I was told about Samishung4u. Sam even had a sister named Tina. I just hope for Tiller's sake he was real and that her heart was not broken for no reason.

Purry {=}


Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/26/2006 12:51 am:

If it is a hoax, then I hope that those perpetrating it will pay...


fair__is__fair 30F
15 posts
6/22/2006 2:22 pm

Sorry to disturb your blog, but someone has recently emailed me and harrased me by sending me this letter about Herman from the abuse team. I’m not going to give the name of the person who harrassed me since this is his first time, but I just want to make everyone aware of what this person is saying about poor Herman!

Here’s what he wrote to me!

Does AdultFriendFinder have a staffing problem, maybe?

As I’ve already mentioned, it is not my jurisdiction to tell AdultFriendFinder how to run their company, but if a staff member is acting in such a manner which is discriminatory toward ones dating approach, and acting on behalf of those who are abusive, and refusing to hear any explanation on behalf of the defender whatsoever, is it wrong to point him out? What if this person is acting against the interest of a fair non-judgemental dating environment, where everyone’s unique opinions and personalities are treated with equal respect?
What if he is standing in the way of future AdultFriendFinder profits? Suppose there is clear evidence that he is abusive of his authority, and uses his own personal discrimination in preventing a paid site member from expressing a reasonable case for his side of a conflict? Suppose his job is to mediate conflict, and he lacks character, and there is clear evidence that he has a dictating personality, and offers no evaluative reasoning for his decisions? What if someone’s unique dating approach is done with the intention of improving the site for everyone, yet the staff member simply outright refuses to listen? Suppose it can be made very obvious to anyone who understands the dating business, that this staff member simply does not have the attributes and skills required to fulfill what his position requires of him? What if unquestionable evidence ofthis can be provided at the end of this post? Then would it be wrong to point him out? Perhaps it would be. Maybe I’ll just Email the name of this person to several site members privately and see what they think, and allow them to act on their own judgement, in hopes that a more openminded abuse team member, with more character, diplomacy skills, reasoning ability, and respect for the diversity of all site members tenure on the site can be promoted to an authority figure in the abuse team.

For now, I merely wish to state my case against this anonymous staff member, so that all of those who read this message can find the necessary evidence which will lead to proof that this staff member is neither acting in the interest of the company, or it’s paid site members. I merely do this in the interest of the well being of any and/or all site members, past, present, and future, so that people can feel confident and secure that they will not be removed from access to all those people in which a person has invested so much of their time and affection for.

At the forefront, I’d just like to say that the person who I am speaking on behalf of has told me quite earnestly that all AdultFriendFinder staff members have been very gracious and understanding in their dealings with him, and he has found it quite easy to reach an agreement with them. However, the one and only abuse team member, of those he has spoken with, who refuses to listen to any part of this site members defense against abuse reports from members of whom my subject has wittingly albeit fairly retaliated against, also happens to hold an authoritative position within the abuse department.

THE QUESTION I HAVE for anyone to whom this authoritative abuse team member is held accountable to, is how are people supposed to enjoy this site when they have to live in fear of the fact that someone with the power to remove them from all those they have invested their time and energy into, can be persuaded to do so easily by those who try to dictate to other people how to approach the site? Would the site not be better if all people were allowed to express their person in manner which represents them according to their own personal tastes in a sex partner? If a person is not free to present themselves in as interesting of a manner as they are capable of, what is the point of competing for a sex partner on this site? There are far more women off the site, to which a person is not limited in their manner of expression.

Those who have used the advice lines for any period of time should be already quite aware of this, but to those of which the staff member of which I speak of is held accountable to, who are not aware, a trip to the advice lines will soon demonstrate that there is a large majority of individuals who are trying to dictate to other people the type of questions they should ask, and putting a great deal of effort into ensuring that everyone who visits the advice columns ask questions that suit the ideals of how this majority feels the advice columns should operate.

When they do not like the nature of someone’s question, they all join forces, to go in and insult the person’s choice of question, and tell them not to come to the advice columns, without ever giving any effort whatsoever toward giving an answer that would satisfy to any end what the advice seeker is seeking.

If you visit the advice columns, this evidence is quite clear. The insults are very common.
No more clear is this then the manner in which nice20402s advice question bearing new york in the title in which many members copied and pasted the same negative response to his taste in humor, calling him a troll and casting the uneducated judgement that he does not respect women. How an adult presents themselves in the public eye, bears no relation to how a person treats an individual. Everyone has different tastes in humor and are attracted to and/or unattracted to different qualities. I’m very certain that luvpump and other exectutives are well aware of the fact that a dating site serves the people best when it consists of variety as opposed to uniformity. The parts of the dating environment
which act as a public forum for the exposure of legal adults to the general dating public should be open to all forms of expression, so that people are able to not only freely express themselves in accordance to their personal satisfaction, but so that the dating environment consists of enough variety that members may find the type of partner that meets their own personal preference. No one should have any right to decide how another person presents themselves in a public forum. If you don’t like to watch “Southpark”, change the channel. I’m sure there are plenty of episodes of “Leave it to Beaver” out there to watch, and if that’s your preference, then whatever happens on Southpark should be of no concern to you. Should you choose to attack the dating style of someone that does not suit your own in a public forum, then in my opinion, you should be open to any form of retaliation within that public forum. There should be no reason to have someone removed from the site simply because you do not agree with their dating approach. We are all here to find the people that match us. While debating and arguing can sometimes be a fun approach to take in getting to know someone, having someone you don’t know removed from the system, simply because you do no like their dating methods is absolutely unacceptable. I don’t think any truly mature adult would disagree with that.

Rather then report abuse to these people’s insults and dictatorship, as was suggested to him by one staff member, the subject who I represent chose instead to retaliate to these people’s insults with insults of his own.

At the point where my subject had done this, the instigators took great offence to this, and began to pile insult after insult on him, no matter what type of question he asked. Even when he chose to graciously step down from the position he felt to be right, and offered to bury the hatchet, these individuals STILL laid insults on him.

I’d like to point out ten facts about my subject.

1. He has never once reported abuse on a member for any reason .
2 He has never once Emailed anything to a member in private that was in the slightest way derogative toward them.
3. He has never told anyone how they should go about using the site, or asked that they change any aspect of their profile or dating approach.
4. He has attempted to resolve conflicts on many occasions
5 He has carried out all conflict in an entertaining manner within the exposure of a public forum.

6. All of his retaliations and comebacks have been done in fun, non hating manner, and his retaliations are done with the intention of acting in the interest of all victims of aggression in an entertaining manner.
7. Not one person who he has retaliated against or anyone one else claiming to have reason to report him for abuse has ever spoken to him in person.
8. He has always responded kindly on the site to those who speak well of him.
9. He has treated all people in the same manner, and responded in accordance to how he has been responded to, regardless of age, sex, sexual orientation, race, or religion. Any derogatory terms concerning race and sexual orientation have been used in a friendly manner.

10. He has explained his position quite effectively to many members of the abuse team, who have all repeatedly accepted his reasoning, and had his profile reapproved approximately 15 to 20 times, and has only failed to reach agreement with one abuse team member.

Neither I, nor my subject ever hoped it would have to come to this, but when an AdultFriendFinder staff member who holds a position of authority, has clearly failed to treat site members fairly and with respect, and outright refused to act diplomatically, after several attempts of offering a polite and reasonable explanation, I feel a need to step in, so that in the future, AdultFriendFinder staff members will act in a manner which best serves the interest of it’s members.

As promised at the beginning of this post I will now provide evidence which will clearly demonstrate that one staff member has not been acting in accordance to a strategy which serves the interest of the company or that provides understanding to a wide variety of personality types from different social backgrounds, which I feel is a vital skill necessary in creating a positive an diverse atmosphere on a dating site which is exposed to the general adult public.

I only do this so that a more suitable, openminded member of the abuse team can be promoted to a position of authority, while the current authorative abuse department figure can be placed in a position which is more suitable to his character style and skills.

Should this particular staff member choose to take recourse on his discriminatory actions, and begin to move more toward a direction which serves it’s members interests, I see no reason why he should not be allowed to continue developing skills in his current position.

However, should he continue to disallow people like my subject who I describe in the list of nine facts, to have the freedom to express himself according to his own personal dating tastes, and continues to act in accordance with the current dictatorial majority in the advice columns, I do not feel this will serve the interests of future site members who may receive the same abuse from this same current dictatorial majority.

I believe all adults on this site should respect any and all dating approaches, of anyone presenting himself on any of the sites public forums, regardless of whether or not they agree with that approach.

I believe retalitory insults, or insults which are used sparingly in a PUBLIC FORUM, should not be considered abuse.

Just as the majority of site members were allowed the freedom to lay insults on my subject, my subject should have the freedom to lay retaliatory insults on that same majority.

Unless someone is acting in a manner which clearly acts against the personal safety or well being of a site member, all adults who enter into a public forum should bear the responsibility of acting in their own defense.

This is what allows adults to have personal growth and progression in their search for a partner who expresses themselves freely, and without prejudice.

Provided that AdultFriendFinder monitors their telephone abuse reports, as any dating site should to ensure fair treatment of site members by the staff, there should be clear evidence that the site member who was initially a paid gold member, and bore the handle entitled livinlavalova, melikekmunch2, and guess_hooze_back among others, has approached the abuse team on several occasions and acted politely and diplomatically in defense of abuse reports against him. Much of the reasoning behind his defense can be determined from conversations from a variety of Abuse team staff. Clear evidence should exist, that there has been but only one staff member who failed to listen to his reasoning. It should also be quite clear that this staff member has acted unreasonably toward being understanding to this site member, and has not provided suitable cause, made any attempt to acknowledge my subject’s reasoning, and provided no just reasoning for his stubborn refusal of this member’s enjoyment on the site other than “we do not allow members whose profile we have removed to return.”

Despite consistent attempts by my subject to use diplomacy and sound reasoning to persuade this sole staff member to allow my subject to continue his attempts at finding his style of partner, and enhancing the marketability of the site, the staff member has consistently fell back on the reasoning quoted above, and has clearly stated that this decision his solely his own.

He has also threatened to take legal action against this initial gold member who has put forth tireless efforts toward enhancing the entertainment value of the site, for his refusal to leave the site, as those who instigated the attack on freedom of expression, would likely support.

Livinlavalova’s initial advice questions, “If I don’t look as good as Larry King, do Ihave a hope in hell on this site,” and “I’m having a math problem here,” should provide clear evidence of how his harmless dating approach was dissuaded, how he defended his approach, and how the mass attacks on him developed.

All advice questions on all handlenames he has used should provide insight into his character and qualities, the manner in which he responds to friendly members, and his elaborate strategy against non friendly members. I feel it is reasonable to assert this matter so that Liv Inlavalova as well as any future members whose approach runs contrary to the uniformity of the majority, can be free of harrassment from members and
staff in the future, and feel free to enjoy the site like everyone else.

I would like to again reiterate the fact that my subject has not once reported abuse on a sitemember.

Thank you for your consideration.


Please make people aware of what this person has said, so that site members can stop harrassing AdultFriendFinder staff and the site can be more enjoyable for all.
I will now post this on the CEO’s blog as well as anywhere I can, so that people who are trying to enjoy the site can be aware of what is being said about Herman.
I apologize for the interruption.


Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/22/2006 9:16 pm:
Fair is fair,

Thank you and welcome to the Fortress...

I know that the member you refer to has commented on my blog a few times...while his style is different, he has acted with respect when he has commented.

I think his style is just a little too different for some people to deal with, but I cannot imagine why he isn't getting a fair shake from the abuse team.

I will keep an eye on this situation, but please understand if I don't take action at this time; too much going on in my real life.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

barbiebunny 36F
5597 posts
6/23/2006 1:55 am

oh ya Im fake, and I dont extist..Im a pigment of your imagination

Its good to be...ME

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/23/2006 1:58 am:
And such a lovely shade of pigment, I might add

I hope my imagination keeps working overtime, if someone like you is coming from it...


NSAAddict 42F

6/23/2006 11:38 am

The drama is often too much to bear in this place, which is why I try to pay it no mind. But when it directly affects you it is difficult to deal with. I'm so sorry you've got someone gunning for you on here and wreaking havoc in your RW. I hope they get what they deserve, karma is a bitch. The real versus fake saga is and probably forever will be part of the blogs. To me, you are real and I know Im' real and that's really all that matters hugs and glad you decided not to shut this blog down for now... I would really miss your wonderful presence and words of wisdom

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/26/2006 12:53 am:
Karma is indeed a bitch...and I think it's starting to bite someone...can't really talk about it here...but the tide is turning...


rm_daveman45nz 56M
42 posts
6/26/2006 4:17 am

Coming from the other side of the world and there is no , or very little, chance of us meeting I could easily be fake. However, time is at the moment very presious to me & I know in my heart you are NOT fake, which is why I spend time on your blog. I enjoy your considered coments.

Kind regards

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/27/2006 5:59 pm:
Thanks Dave...I appreciate your comments, they come at a moment when I needed to hear them...

TheLilFondler 33F
2576 posts
6/29/2006 1:42 pm

*gives you a sad smile as she sits in the middle of the floor* i would hate to see You go but if You feel You must then so be it... but know this, You will be greatly missed... i know i havent been visiting Your blog long but it has been a great help to me...

i lost my virginity years ago.....
but i still have the box.....

Nightguy_1961 replies on 6/30/2006 1:19 am:
Lil One,

I'm not leaving...I was just going through a rough time, that's all...

I just was wondering about a lot of things at the time I posted this....


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