ON A SERIOUS NOTE....  

LustyTaurus 48M  
12038 posts
6/24/2006 7:39 pm

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ON A SERIOUS NOTE....

I live in a small city in Canada...population around 220,000 people.

One of the dark and dirty things we have to deal with is "Street Prostitution". Just by way of definition to be crystal clear, these are women (or sometimes men and boys) making themselves available for sex by appearance and "special" glances from the street or street corners to the buyers...and here we call them "Johns".

I say dark and dirty because here, most of the street Prostitutes are affiliated with street gangs and forced to turn tricks against their will or they are drug addicted or they are underage or all three combined.

I'm not bashing the world's oldest profession here, I for one think it should be legalized and regulated everywhere, but I DO NOT support street Prostitution under any circumstance.

The authorities here have tried many things...including impounding vehicles, publicizing the names of "Johns" who get caught, "John" school, having undercover officers work the known areas the sex trade workers hang out...but it seems like it isn't having much effect.

I don't understand what is in the mind of the men who look for sex this way either. There are Escort Agencies and massage parlors providing sex for hire here that are tolerated for the most part by the law, and it is common knowledge that those on the street are the most desperate of people.

I think the men who buy from street sex workers are the lowest form of scum on the earth, just as bad or not worse than the pimps who put them there.

I know this isn't my usual fare for a blog post...it's just something that's been on my mind because of recent local and national goings on.

Do you guys have any thoughts on the matter? Any ideas solutions to the problem? Maybee you live in a jurisdiction that has mostly solved it. I'm just sad about all.

Any and all thoughts appreciated, as usual.

Thankyou.

.LUSTYTAURUS


MOfunNOWWOW 55F

6/24/2006 8:11 pm

Education and community involvement are the key factors to jump start in combating the problem. A john school also is very effective for the johns to be fined a large amount to attend and then the monies utilized to offer free drug programming, mental health, and etc. The johns are the ones that fund the destruction of the neighborhood. Their money is the main source to purchase drugs and guns for the gangs. Let them clean up your neighborhoods. For more info to combat this problem contact me and I can give you links and organizatons that specialize if you are wanting to get involved. If you are....HUGE HUGE UPS to ya! Kisses, MO


MOMO
just a squirrel trying to get a nut


LustyTaurus replies on 6/24/2006 11:44 pm:
thanks very much MO

libgemOH 56M/52F

6/24/2006 8:15 pm

Can't follow that one so........ what Mo said!!! -B


LustyTaurus replies on 6/24/2006 11:45 pm:
haha..seems MO definately has some answers on this one.

themisskrissy 56F
2302 posts
6/24/2006 8:41 pm

i have to agree about legalizing!! sex for hire will never go away!!! the demand and supply will be there as it has since the beginning of human time..
clean it up.. get them off the streets and do away with as much of the filthy pimp aspect as possible.. make it safer for the prostitutes to ply their trade!! that and 420 should be legal and taxable! like any other goods and services..

harassing johns and arresting the workers is another waste of resources in my opinion... resources that could be better utilized to getting hard drugs and the bigger fish dealer gone.. shutting down on gang violence..

there are much better ways to spend canada's money!

Virtue Alone Ennobles


LustyTaurus replies on 6/24/2006 11:47 pm:
yes I tend to think that way also..

lifeisablast333 53M

6/24/2006 9:02 pm

then it is agreed......when will the bill pass......and can we get frc. flyer miles....LOL


LustyTaurus replies on 6/24/2006 11:47 pm:
hehehe...air miles for buying sex...I'd fly around the world in no time...

JuicyBBW1001 54F

6/24/2006 9:43 pm

Thought provoking post LT. I am all for making it tougher for prostitutes to make a living and force them into a more productive and safer way of surviving. The only way to do that however would be to take away the demand for their services.
At one time in Tampa there was a law that was under consideration to post the pictures of men who where arrested for solicitation on the news and the internet.
But Prostution will not go away. It is evident by reading some of the profiles on this very site when women mention the word "generous" they are more then likely not talking about a man's endownment.
So either you legalize it and make it a safer industry for all involved or you prevent it from happening by making the penalties stricter both for the prostitute and for the john.

Juicy


LustyTaurus replies on 6/24/2006 11:48 pm:
thanks for the input Juicy...

moonlightphoenix 45F
6508 posts
6/24/2006 9:53 pm

220,000 is not a small town in Canada...lol.


LustyTaurus replies on 6/24/2006 11:49 pm:
lol...I grew up in a small town of 400 in fact, but to many who may read this 220,000 is quite small...thanks for the visit phoenix...

pretty_blue_eyes 38F
2091 posts
6/24/2006 11:34 pm

First off, ummmm..thats not small. Just to let you know if you were indeed doubtful of the definition of small. Okay...now. I think it needs to be regulated somehow. There are alot of sick people in this world that think its okay to take advantage of "working women". Some can't help it are forced into it, others like you said are addicted to drugs. Not only that, think of all the possible diseases they could be spreading. Then the johns are taking home to their partners and spouses. What a mess! Sex is sex, if its between two consenting adults, whats the deal? Its no different than some guy meeting a chick at a bar and having sex in the bathroom? car? or going back to his place? Is it? One has to seriously wonder about a person that would go to a person like that in the first place. Not only that, if they go to a bar, flirt with a girl, wouldn't even have to pay other than drinks! Probably a better class of female to boot.

Who knows how to really solve this particular problem.


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:24 pm:
thanks Pretty...that was very well said. I like the legalizing idea too.

rm_1sexyroo 56M/55F
333 posts
6/25/2006 12:38 am

As you've mentioned, this is one of the oldest (if not THE oldest professions) and I'm not sure if there ever will be a real solution to it other than education! Publicizing pictures of John's only leads them to alternative ways to get sex. Who knows - if they are that desperate they may turn to or worse yet, luring young girls/boys from shopping malls, play grounds...the internet, you get my drift.
If these street ladies (and I use that term loosely cause they are) don't think that their face won't appear on an add for missing women some day, then they have no idea of the clear and present danger they place themselves in every time they hit the streets.
Maybe when they show school kids these "This is your brain on drugs" movies, they should add a few of scenarios like "This is what your life is like when you choose to use drugs."
Here on the westest of the west coast of Canada, at least the law enforcement and some govt agencies are working hand in hand with community groups to help women who want to get off the streets. It may not yet reach out to all of these women, but at least those that know there is a better way of living are grabbing the opportunity as fast as they can.


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:27 pm:
Yes, recent events with Robert Pickton trial and then the missing girls in Edmonton are exactly what prompted this post in part...thankyou for the input.

oldude1946 70M

6/25/2006 4:44 am

I live two miles out of town of 308 people so we don't have that problem here. A Ho wouldn't stand a chance, too many women here give it away


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:29 pm:
hahaha...maybe that's the answer, get women to make easier for us to get for free...

OK, now that I got my ass in deep dog doo doo I'll shut up now!

hungryNhorny64 52M/51F

6/25/2006 6:30 am

I can`t help but feel sorry for the girls ( and yes i am refering to the YOUNG girls) who become victims of addiction and Scummy John`s who push them towards this poor heartbreaking life style. If anyone were to follow the life stories of some these women.. it might break your heart. When girls come from an abusive backgrounds, and the lack of family values, love and protection and self love is not available, some of these women learn to not trust their own abilities and look to someone else to care for them. Next thing they know .. these "boyfriends" are actually John`s. I have read on these cases happening.. and all I know .. is the bases for prevention of future probs such as street prostitution... is to legalize the trade.Before we JUDGE the ladies .. we need to judge their upbringing and the parents who has not been the best of parents to begin with.


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:31 pm:
I'm not interested in passing judgement on the ladies...I don't believe anyone would work the sex trade from the street by choice without some pretty compelling motivation...ie drugs or beatings etc

Kaliedascope61 41M
4084 posts
6/25/2006 6:34 am

I come from a small city in texas population 1,010. whats a hooker?


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:32 pm:
Well Kal...it's kinda of like a blow-up doll except a hooker belongs to someone else and you can only rent them you can't buy them...

fallinStrgazer 54F
388 posts
6/25/2006 6:49 am

Hi Lusty and Good Morning. That story is sad. Kids prostituting themselves, probably runaways from a bad home who have no other choice, i guess.
As for the JOHNS.. they need a real job!!! exploiting young women for their own gain.. how sad that is.
I dont live in an area where this is present (Thank God), for that i am greatful.
As for the legalization of it maybe they should, At least the job that these women feel they have to do... they would at least be able to get a decent tax check at the end of the year..lol... have a good day


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:36 pm:
thanks fallin...the pimps and the Johns are the real problem I'll agree

Nightguy_1961 55M
4866 posts
6/25/2006 6:52 am

LT,

I agree that maybe legalization might be a way to take it off the streets...

It's a sticky situation...maybe looking at how it's going in other countries where it is leagalized would help?

Just my viewpoint...

NG61...slipping back into the darkness...


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:36 pm:
I don't know either NG...is it Holland that has legalized prostitution?...are there others?

absolutelynormal 56F
6563 posts
6/25/2006 6:58 am

Wow, they allowed you to post this here, but I can't do a post about drug abuse and my thoughts on it over at my blog!

You think about prostitution the way I do about drugs, legalize it and TAX the shit out of it!


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:37 pm:
I don't know how the censors here choose what to allow...but as far as your point, if we regulate it we don't want to create an underground economy worse than we have now either

RevJoseyWales 69M/66F
14393 posts
6/25/2006 10:06 am

Legalization would help, and it should be done, for any number of good reasons. Health, taxes, safety are just some of them. But I don't think you'll ever get rid of the street trade. A lot of guys simply don't want to spend the money for a reputable operation, preferring th cheasp $10-20 BJ. I honestly do not know the answer LT, but I DO know that you cannot legislate morality. Harsher penalties will just put more people in jail. It won't solve the problem. Just look at our "war on drugs". All we can do is to try to control it as much as possible. Perhaps the European red light district idea, along with gov't sponosred health programs? Possible . Joe

"McVeigh had the right idea, wrong address."

"This ain't Dodge City, and you ain't Bill Hickok."


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:39 pm:
yes, you're right...legislating morality is impossible not to mention wrong!!

I don't see this as a moral issue though...I see it as criminals exploiting the weak.

meerkittykat 42F

6/25/2006 10:25 am

Lusty....I read a fantastic article in Rolling Stone a couple years back which talked about seriously organized teenage prostitution gangs in Vancouver...if I could recall exactly when I'd send it to you.

Policing is not the matter, as many think. You will arrest 10 johns and 15 more will replace them. One has to find a way to convince these women prostituting themselves that there's a better choice; most prostitutes wouldn't list it as their first career, but many do it because of the quick financial help to rescue themselves. It's desperation, not desire. Then you're entering a whole new discussion of societal priorities and........

I dropped by for a reason, actually....I touched you. (no, not in that way, ya perv.)

"[post 402018]"


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:40 pm:
I think going agressively after John's and pimps is the best way to solve it...attack both the supply end and the demand end. The girls are nothing more than tools working under diress of some kind

MWWwantmore 51F

6/25/2006 11:26 am

I have been to Canada many times, once in Montreal, one of them propositioned my 13 year old son Guess they are desperate! It is sad to see them selling themselves like that. I must say that the sex for hire places have some very nice women. I have met a few



I'll have a cafe, mocha, vodka, valium latte to go please!

Good girls go to heaven.....bad girls go down!!


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:42 pm:
Sheesh...I might have pounded the SOB right there in the street.

norprin5 55M

6/25/2006 11:49 am

yeh, it's a damn shame...

King Nor XVIII


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:42 pm:
it certainly is Norprin...and some of the girls on the street here originated from your neck of the woods I suspect.

rm_PurryKitty2 48M/49F
9753 posts
6/25/2006 11:50 am

Perhaps they are not as educated as you and you should create a brochure and hand it out to them. I would worry about disease and would not choose a woman on the streets or even in a massage parlor.

BTW, you have great eyes-MEEEEEEEEOW!

Purry {=}

Purry


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:43 pm:
thanks Purry...

and education is definately part of the problem I suspect on many levels

HBowt2 58F

6/25/2006 12:29 pm

legalization doesn't always stop the street prostitution lusty.....there are always people who use the weak and vulnerable


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:44 pm:
does it at least help HB?

silverbreeze2 65F

6/25/2006 1:40 pm

I agree with what many people here have said.


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:45 pm:
thanks silver...

FeistySyn 51F

6/25/2006 2:27 pm

Look at what happened when drinking alcohol became illegal in the U.S. ... where there is a will, there is a way... in my humble opinion, I think more people are being hurt by prostitution being illegal than they would by it being legal and regulated.

p.s... not that you don't already have enough "fans", but I am still busting up from reading your blog about swelling and hair plucking.. omg... we must be close to the same age.


Apparently the depth of depravity here is bottomless... don't you feel right at home?
~~~~~


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:47 pm:
thanks Feisty...I'm glad you find enjoyment here...lol.

And I'm kinda feeling that legalizing certain things may in fact help

goodatpoetry2 66M
12398 posts
6/25/2006 2:31 pm

Legalizing it would help, but not really stop it. The street workers would always be cheaper. But it's a start.


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 7:48 pm:
maybe the funds raised through legalization and regualtion would put more resources towards the really bad stuff poetry...I don't know though

concupiscentKid 40M

6/25/2006 4:26 pm

legalize AND regulate
I agree
It would cut down on (though not eliminate) the spread of STDs.
There is more slavery today than there was in the entire 350 year history of slavery in North, Central, and South America.
Many of these slaves are forced into prostitution.
Many are younger--much younger--than 18.


LustyTaurus replies on 7/8/2006 1:16 pm:
just my point...thanks kid...

OboesHonedIambs 62F

6/25/2006 8:04 pm

You have to have a multi-pronged approach to clearing up street prostitution. Community education, john school as previously suggested, better community interface with at risk youth in the schools, gang intervention, the whole shooting match.

When I was in college, street prostitution had gotten so bad that the johns who cruised through on their way to the area where the street girls were, were always hassling the college and neighborhood women and girls. They'd harass the hell out of us and some even had the gall to get angry with us and in our faces when we told 'em to shove off. It took several years of hard work to push the johns out of the neighborhoods near the University. One of the best of those tools was the john schools.

Instant Human -- Just Add Coffee


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 8:10 pm:
I hope they push that option real hard...we'll never run out of willing buyers but maybe we can stop some.

FunFlirty4u 45F

6/25/2006 8:33 pm

I've seen the ladies working here in Winnipeg too and some are so young. I've seen the men driving around looking for them. One old man in a big old cadillac with his wife and his name personalized on the plate. I'll always remember that. Last night I was driving home from an AdultFriendFinder meet at 1:30 and I drove down this street where male prostitutes frequent. There were quite a few of the young men out there and I felt bad almost like I wanted to stop and give them money but that just wouldn't be safe and they would still stand there. Its not all what Julia Roberts made it out to be thats for sure. If all the customers looked like Richard Gere, hell I would be standing out there.


LustyTaurus replies on 6/25/2006 8:44 pm:
I think the issue is different for young men vs young women selling themselves on the street, but either way it's sad.

hungryNhorny64 52M/51F

7/5/2006 6:28 am

    Quoting hungryNhorny64:
    I can`t help but feel sorry for the girls ( and yes i am refering to the YOUNG girls) who become victims of addiction and Scummy John`s who push them towards this poor heartbreaking life style. If anyone were to follow the life stories of some these women.. it might break your heart. When girls come from an abusive backgrounds, and the lack of family values, love and protection and self love is not available, some of these women learn to not trust their own abilities and look to someone else to care for them. Next thing they know .. these "boyfriends" are actually John`s. I have read on these cases happening.. and all I know .. is the bases for prevention of future probs such as street prostitution... is to legalize the trade.Before we JUDGE the ladies .. we need to judge their upbringing and the parents who has not been the best of parents to begin with.
My comment wasn`t to claim you( lusty taurus ) were judging anyone .. It was meant society in general passes judgment on a problem that abuse has caused to young women ( and men ) in the trade. I realize no woman ( or man) sets out to think " hey when I grow up, I`m gonna be a prostitute".That isn`t realistic... what is realistic is the sex trade.. and we all need to help by writing out govenments asking it to be legalize .. BUT I doubt it will be legalized in my lifetime.


LustyTaurus replies on 7/8/2006 1:17 pm:
I understand that horny, and i don't think much is going to chnage either unfortunately

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