Come on, Come ALL...  

LoyaltyandHonor 35M/31F
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5/19/2005 4:38 pm

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Come on, Come ALL...

I am very happy to see some medieval lovers in the mix here. The greatest tales of this world come from that time. Granted there are of course many heroes and legends that come from other times as well.

I must go back to my studying as I have been surfing way to long today and I must work tonight as well. I did finally find my folded steel Katana I have been looking for. Only kicker is that is costs $1,700.

Congratulations to Crimson for winning the first challenge I have posted on history.

However, this time there is no asking another for help

This is actually the primary of the Japanese Samurai (Bushi). Many believe that it was the Katana, however that was not true. What is it? How was it used? The real challenge is within answering the question and not really finding the answer to the question.

Who can identify what it is? The picture may not be clear, but I am sure there are some with very good eyes.

I shall add a new historical challenge each day. Today I have put up two, but since the answer was given so quickly... I must add another.

Who can answer Sir Edwards’s questions?

Guess away, no one will be laughing at anyone who takes a chance.

I agree with those who said that there is much interesting information behind swords and other various medieval things. Even today, a sword costs considerably more then a gunpowder type.


wyvernrose 38F
3895 posts
5/20/2005 11:16 pm

They are actually not uncommon in these parts will keep my eyes out....if you like

WyvernRose


LoyaltyandHonor 35M/31F
1241 posts
5/20/2005 5:29 pm

I think it was a Kris blade... and yes they do. They are very curved from tip to base. I don't have one of those, but it is one I would like to add to my collection.


wyvernrose 38F
3895 posts
5/20/2005 4:27 pm

Yeah Boney told me about that last night, that they fight and defend using the shefthed (sorry cant remember how to spell it) Katana, and only unsheth it for the purpose of making a killing stroke, and when replacing it in the sheth they hold the top with two fingers on the edge for the purpose of blooding the blade, I vagely remember some cultures have curses associated with returning an unblooded blade to its sheth, one example is the indonesian Krie or kris not quite sure which was what lol its the one with a wavey blade, those things do some serious damage

WyvernRose


LoyaltyandHonor 35M/31F
1241 posts
5/20/2005 3:27 pm

LOL I love the "Ex wives" bit. That sounds hilarious and yet mostly because I see that with a lot of divorced couples.


LoyaltyandHonor 35M/31F
1241 posts
5/20/2005 3:06 pm

Yes, Samurai were horseback fighters with a primary emphasis on the bow and polearm. They believed thier Shoto (Sword, "katana") to be their soul and as such treated it with amazing care.

This particular polearm used by the Samurai is a "Naginata". It is much like the Katana, but the blade is smaller and is on the end of a large pole. Very effective from horseback.


wyvernrose 38F
3895 posts
5/20/2005 3:06 pm

Yes Boney used to also have a lovely collection although there are these things called ex wives, he is also trained in the use of them...

Thankfully even on the job he has not had cause to use it....particularly since some of the forms aren't entirely legal here

WyvernRose


expatbrit49 62M

5/20/2005 1:16 pm

Interesting post, I have no direct answer to the weapon type however; I agree that the evolution and use of these weapons is as interesting if not more interesting than the weapons themselves. That being said a lot of these weapons are extremely beautiful objects
My son has an extensive collection of Chinese weaponry that includes more than 12 swords ranging from Hook swords to Nine Ring Long-Handle Sword much of which he uses in competition. The highlight is a very nice Haidong Jingum hand forged Katana
There are several excellent reference books which I am sure you already know of but for those that may be interested:
The Use of some of these Weapons
Yang Jwing-Ming wrote an excellent book on the use of ancient Chinese weapons

A classic introduction into the thoughts behind ancient Chinese warfare:
SUN TZU ON THE ART OF WAR

Thank You for Your Time and Attention


wyvernrose 38F
3895 posts
5/20/2005 9:06 am

Opps no correction the entire item is a pole arm he took a closer look

WyvernRose


wyvernrose 38F
3895 posts
5/20/2005 9:05 am

Boney says the items in the picture are a pole arm and a Katana

WyvernRose


wyvernrose 38F
3895 posts
5/20/2005 9:05 am

Whishitar or however it is spelt...

WyvernRose


LoyaltyandHonor 35M/31F
1241 posts
5/20/2005 6:25 am

A Katana is a Japanese Samurai sword. many believe it to be the Samurai's primary weapon when in fact it was not.

The picture is of the actual Samurai primary.

Who knows what the Primary weapon of the Samurai was?


rm_Cap101st 62M

5/19/2005 10:52 pm

The use of the heavy Prussian Sabre in warfare is truly the mark of a master warrior, one who wishes to pit himself against the enemy, the opponent more for the love of the fight then the ultimate outcome, be it victory oir death.
The cold steel is what becomes an extensition of the warriors arm, hand, being. In 'nam the sword , seldomly used, was non e the less something the enemy feared greatly fore the pain and detah inflicted with that implement of pain was far more intense and threatening to that alien sub-culture of lucifer then all the bombs dropped upon them from the air and all the heavy bombardments we plastered the murderous bastards with with.
TRUE fear, UL:TIMATE panic was instilled into tyhe very being of the twisated murderrouisd yellow race that were sent to hell en masse via the old sword of the Franco/Prussian War that had found itself instead of in Europe in the hand of an old Calvary Officer but now in the hand of yert another Captain of the 101st, "modern" warfare.....from the 19th century. nothing can replace the rushb that the MAN gets when despatching death with the 4 1/2 foot sabre of old.


keithcancook 60M
17718 posts
5/19/2005 7:36 pm

I am somewhat unclear on the question here. I have never heard the term Katana, and I am not sure if it is a weapon or a way of living.

Bushi sounds like a term I know...Bushido. That was the code that Samarai lived by. Total obedience to ones lord is the cornerstone of that philosophy. ( the term "samarai" means "to serve" )

My eyesight is failing alarmingly (to me) and even with glasses I have difficulty making it out. From what I can see, I will guess that the picture is of a footsoldiers weapon? Perhaps used in similar fashion to a pike against horsemen? (yet a pike was more of a stabbing weapon, while the curve of this blade shows that it was crafted more for a slashing stroke)

Now I am off to google up "Katana" It will be the "new thing" to learn today for ol keith.


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