Harmless deception?  

LondonDerriere 36F
1281 posts
5/23/2006 3:29 pm

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Harmless deception?


I'm in one of my obscure moods tonight so bear with me.

The question is this:

If I had an identical twin sister and I posted pictures of her on my profile because I didn't have any of my own, would I be lying/deceiving people?

GB_Cple 66M/55F  
3037 posts
5/23/2006 10:25 pm

yes


Choozmi 50M

5/23/2006 10:48 pm

Technically, yes, but to me it sounds like a victimless crime.

Since I am a Standard member I can only see tiny photos anyway and I can scarcely make out details. If I were to arrange to meet someone off this site and she looked even remotely like her photo I would be delighted.

Something else to consider... If you posted a photo of your twin doing something that you yourself would refuse to do, THAT would be unfair to your partners, and that would be deceptive.

However, I get the sneaky feeling there is very little you would not do.


Loosetooth 41M
1146 posts
5/24/2006 12:13 am

Yes you would be decieving people. However most people would not notice nor care the main decievee would be your poor innocent sister. Something you want to tell us Shelley?


soupcat 46M

5/24/2006 7:26 am

The question is a little too open... depends on what the reader is after...and whether they feel deceived. If its stimulation and attraction of body... well, does it really matter that the two packages, complete with stimuli look the same?

If its arousal of the most powerful sexual organ there is...the mind; Well...we're into a whole different ballgame. I would feel more let down if I met the person and she were bereft of the personality, raconteur, articulacy and confidence...that came across in profile and online correspondence. And..yes, twins can differ in that way!


donnie157 59M

5/24/2006 10:14 am

i also say yes, technically speaking. not that your viewers would care. but ur sister might.

speaking of which... do you have a sister? and if you do, is she hot like you? and if so, do you have any pix of her, naked or otherwise? just checking. lol


LondonDerriere 36F
157 posts
5/24/2006 10:21 am

    Quoting Loosetooth:
    Yes you would be decieving people. However most people would not notice nor care the main decievee would be your poor innocent sister. Something you want to tell us Shelley?
Given that my sister is 4 years younger than me and bears only a passing familial resemblence, the answer is probably no.


LondonDerriere 36F
157 posts
5/24/2006 10:26 am

    Quoting Choozmi:
    Technically, yes, but to me it sounds like a victimless crime.

    Since I am a Standard member I can only see tiny photos anyway and I can scarcely make out details. If I were to arrange to meet someone off this site and she looked even remotely like her photo I would be delighted.

    Something else to consider... If you posted a photo of your twin doing something that you yourself would refuse to do, THAT would be unfair to your partners, and that would be deceptive.

    However, I get the sneaky feeling there is very little you would not do.
You're probably right. Can't actually imagine my sister agreeing to be photographed doing something I wouldn't. Actually, not sure she would agree to be photographed doing things that I would.

She has admitted to posing for some 'naughty' pictures for her boyfriend but, since she's not a member on here (to my knowledge anyway), we'll probably never know just what she defines as naughty and since we're not twins, it's completely academic in any event,


LondonDerriere 36F
157 posts
5/24/2006 11:58 am

Perhaps I should have pointed out that implicit in this 'deception' was the fact that this was done with my hypothetical twin sister's full knowledge and consent.


Whispersoftly5 52F
15176 posts
5/25/2006 10:10 am

This is an interesting post! I think yes, it would be considered deceptive - even if you and your hypothetical twin were the only ones to know of it. Would there be any harm committed against others by it - in this case, probably not.

Whisper...


rm_limerickcpl 36M/34F
16 posts
5/25/2006 10:57 am

I would say no. You are posting the pictures to show people what you look like because you have never met face to face. Obviously you look like your identical twin. As long as ye are both the same size, etc it isn't a problem. Like a car brochure, your not looking at the actual car you are buying an identical model.


LondonDerriere 36F
157 posts
5/25/2006 1:44 pm

    Quoting rm_limerickcpl:
    I would say no. You are posting the pictures to show people what you look like because you have never met face to face. Obviously you look like your identical twin. As long as ye are both the same size, etc it isn't a problem. Like a car brochure, your not looking at the actual car you are buying an identical model.
I like the way you think...

Using a car analogy may help bring some of the guys round


DubiousInnocence 32F

5/25/2006 1:56 pm

Speaking as someone who does have a twin sister, I don't think I would have a problem if Helen (my twin) asked me if she could use a few of my photos to build a profile on here. I like Limerick's suggestion that it's a bit like buying from a car brouchure or from a catalogue, you're seeing a picture of an example of what you are getting, not the actual one you will get.

It's a bit like walking into Currys, pointing to the latest widescreen telly and saying, 'I'll have one of those'.


Smouldering_Eyes 42F
35 posts
5/25/2006 2:59 pm

I don't really have too much of a problem with this either.

Odd how the reaction seems, with the exception of GB_Cple, to be split along gender lines. Never realised you guys were suche a moralistic lot lol.

Fi xo


StillWaters18 45M  
7 posts
5/26/2006 1:08 am

Leaving aside for a mo the fact that it is often possible to tell identical twins apart, and risking an accusation of being moralistic... I still think it's dodgy. Basically the question boils down to whether it's OK to do something involving somebody else without their consent, not necessarily to their benefit, even if you sincerely belive it's not going to harm them...
Put it another way, Shelly, what would medical ethics say if you were to conduct a drugs trial on someone, even if you were convinced the drug in question to be harmless?


noel_dub 40M
53 posts
5/26/2006 3:54 am

All I can say is, can I have your hypothetical twin sisters number ? Its getting to the stage that I would even go on a date with hypothetical women ......... only joking, I'll give it another week or two, then I'll be back for that number !!!!


LondonDerriere 36F
157 posts
5/26/2006 12:19 pm

    Quoting StillWaters18:
    Leaving aside for a mo the fact that it is often possible to tell identical twins apart, and risking an accusation of being moralistic... I still think it's dodgy. Basically the question boils down to whether it's OK to do something involving somebody else without their consent, not necessarily to their benefit, even if you sincerely belive it's not going to harm them...
    Put it another way, Shelly, what would medical ethics say if you were to conduct a drugs trial on someone, even if you were convinced the drug in question to be harmless?
Your medical effect point is a good one but you're missing my point. In my example, nothing is being done without consent. My hypothetical twin is willingly helping me out because, for whatever reason (eg my PC died wiping out my own photos), I don't have any photos of my own.

As for being able to tell identical twis apart, granted, frequently you can, but ususally only after you've seen both of them and picked out the differences. In this case, you're only seeing a photo of one of them, the other twin isn't there to make comaprisons with. Makes it a bit harder I think.


rm_macallan4u 46M
968 posts
5/27/2006 1:30 pm

Deception is deception. Whether or not there is a victim, even if no one ever knows, you would still have deceived. Would it be different if your twin then went on a date with someone as 'you' because you couldn't one night?

Effectivement, tu as un superbe derriere!


StillWaters18 45M  
7 posts
5/27/2006 5:29 pm

"Your medical effect point is a good one but you're missing my point. In my example, nothing is being done without consent. My hypothetical twin is willingly helping me out because, for whatever reason (eg my PC died wiping out my own photos), I don't have any photos of my own."

Yes, sorry, I hadn't read the full thread - apologies! With consent it's a very different matter. I think in the specialised case you're describing - identical twins - it's less of a deception than, say, getting professional help in writing a profile. Which is apparently possible now on some sites...


Priapeo 46M

5/31/2006 5:44 am

Can you send me some deceiving pics?

However I don't think it is deception. With the picture of a naked body you sure don't mean to represent any virtue, ideal or whatever other mark of personality. If in a gallery I saw a fake Van Gogh which is identical in every paintbrush touch and every chromatic nuance I would not be deceived, because I would get exactly similar feelings of excitement in response.

Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level then beats you with experience


rm_david690000 47M
17 posts
5/31/2006 8:05 am

It depends on your lawyer skills vs the "potentially deceived"
person's lawyer skills.


soupcat 46M

6/8/2006 1:37 pm

What in the name of jeeeebus prompted this question?? Has dubiousinnocence something to confess?


LondonDerriere 36F
157 posts
6/13/2006 1:56 pm

    Quoting soupcat:
    What in the name of jeeeebus prompted this question?? Has dubiousinnocence something to confess?
From the experience of a couple of weekends ago, I can confirm that DubiousInnocence has plenty to confess to (sorry Lou, if you're reading) although not with respect to this post. She's lucky she's not Catholic or she'd spend half her life in the confessional

There again, if that was the case, she wouldn't have enough time on her hands to do anything worth confessing to, so she wouldn't be there, which would leave her plenty of time...

Let's leave it there. My head wasn't designed to cope with such paradoxes.


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