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LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
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11/7/2005 10:29 am
SMELL THE COFFEE!!!


SMELL THE COFFEE!!!
Merely Touching on the Scope and Reality of Terrorism


While not Standard Fare for a Sex Site, Honestly Examining the Reality of Terrorism has been a Major Interest / Concern of ours LONG before it became fashionable,... and a Very Large Part of WHO WE ARE.

DANGER!!!,.. This is a Smell the Coffee!!... Reality Only Zone!!
This deals ONLY with FACTS and the LOGICAL extension of Facts , thus is NOT a place for you Left Coast B.C. "Ostriches" - Best you keep your "Heads in the Sand".
The REALITY "Coffee" is WAAAY Too Strong for You!!
(Best you just Stick to Tea ... or your pot, LOL.)


Why We Know a Lil About It All
Picking up on an obvious pattern in Terror Acts around the World, we "Smelled the Coffee" of Reality 15 years ago. Also, while in Manila in 1995, we were privy to the details of the Forerunner to 911 >- the Intercepted Asia 12 Airliner Plan.
Continued in "Comments" >>>>

LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
12/14/2005 9:37 am

Continued from Above

Helplessly, we awaited the "Obviously Impending" Destruction of at least 1 NY Trade Tower and some Washington structures....
NOW AGAIN, helplessly, we await the NEXT ugly attrocity .. upon more civilians ... Washington? ... Paris? ... LA ... Vancouver? ... are at top of our list ... or, a small town somewhere? ... or, many towns everywhere ... or???


LEFT OR RIGHT - THEY JUST DONT GET IT!!
(Misinformation, Stupidity and Gutlessness)
Few "in power", and even less "regular folks", saw its OBVIOUS and INEVITABLE coming before >- Few, even after experiencing 911, see the OBVIOUS and INEVITABLE that is to come soon.

Most on "the LEFT" Believe , foolishly and self-servingly, that it has to do with what we do, or have done - or they destructively pretend that it doesn't exist, for them. (their Always Predictable "Guilt" or "Blame the Victim" Syndromes, or Blame the Right)

Most on "the RIGHT" Believe, naively, that it is because they hate our democratic principals, our way of life, and that we are predominantly Christian. (Typical reaction from the Right)

For you would-be Environmental and Civil Rights Types ... for you "Sanctity of Life" types .... THINK ... as you brush off the threat ... these monsters are plotting 24/7 to do more Environmental Damage than man has done in all of history ..... and to remove the "Rights" and "Sanctity" of millions ... in a Split Second .... by killing them ...

THE REALITY!!
It's Not About US - It's About Them

Few understand that it is TOTALLY ABOUT the " Milleniums Old Internal Power Struggle for Control of ALL Islamic Counties " >--- the Cause of which has nothing to do with us.


CAUSALLY, Few understand that, "They" view us ONLY as:
1. we are NOT Islamic, (and especially not their "brand" of Islamic).
2. we are potentially "in the way" of their objectives (in that we might help defend governments of Islamic countries that they intend to take over).
Moslems not of their specific "brand" of Islam and it's ABSOLUTE CONTROL of women and thought, are also "The Enemy".


Sure, they assess us and the rest of the world, then make up whatever "excuses" will work for them. To take their contrived and self - serving "Blame Us" rhetoric literally, is the Ultimate Stupidity!!! .

It's NOT "ABOUT US" - It IS ONLY ABOUT THEM Imposing Their Will on All Islamic Countries.

A ONE SIDED WAR
They Are AT War - We are NOT!!!

Smell the Coffee!!! ..... We have had War Declared Upon us ... and, Like it or not, YOU have had war declared upon YOU!! .. While we / you nonchalantly go about our lives pretending all is well (some are even arguing the causes, the seriousness, the "blame" for ourselves, or blame for their political opponents, or the "rights" of suspects, or how we should "be nice" to them...) these ABSOLUTELY DEDICATED Radicals sit in Thousands of Mosque basements all around the world , ... and in Apartment units of the West, .... plotting 24/7 to kill our innocents ... plotting to render many cities unusable for centuries ... plotting to cripple our economic system .... seeking to find and fashion Chemical, Biological and, ... YES!!!, ... the "N" Word Weapons ... to use on our cities and civilians.

They are "IN The GAME - WE are NOT
24 Hours a Day they plot .... while we sleep, work, play.... and even argue whether the threat is significant or not ... or who is to blame
... they creat their horrible weapons and plot how to transport and use them. ... They WILL USE THEM!!! ... "Allah Willing" ... they will kill millions.

We could never stop ALL their acts.... but, we could do a hell of a lot better than we are doing at preventing many of them if we "Woke Up and Smelled the Coffee" of REALITY ... and Got In The Game!!!.


Please Post Your Thoughts , provided they are based on Real Facts


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/4/2006 3:45 pm

Today Ariel Sharron had second setback .... may be very serious this time .... while Palestinians dance in the streets .... They have been so "tainted" by their so called leaders ... sucked up to by Europe .. If they only knew ... Sharron was REALLY trying to make peace for and with them ...Like NO ONE else EVER did!!! ...

others "Talked" peace for their Political Advantage ...

He "DID" Peace .. to his Political Disadvantage. THAT is Courage!! That is Integrity


The Left's "devil, warrior, right winger, cold killer, tough guy ..." was actually the ONLY one who actually DID things toward peace ... all the others talked only!

He was the ONLY hope they ever had .. the ONLY one who really might DO IT! ...

There NEVER has been anyone on in camp who REALLY could or would do it ...

now, he is likely stopped. If so, there will likely NEVER be peace there now ... never ... sooooooooo damned sad .... so damned uneccessary...

All they have now is The terrible horrible hatefull legacy of Yasser, their hero?????????


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/4/2006 5:34 pm


Please DO Post, but please also remember... TRUE FACTS only!

Opinions Based on Good Logic and True Facts are also Well Cum.

Politically Based, or Driven, Opinions from either direction not allowed. Go to Air(Head) America or "Move Backward dott kom or Ostrich_HeadInSand dawt kalm any other politically slanted sites for that. ....

This is a "REALITY ONLY" Zone!!


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/4/2006 5:40 pm


Just started this one - give us a lil time and we will enter a chronology of past and current events - along with future projections.

The "Knowledge of Reality" is all we have going for us and is our only real Ally - "Heads in the Sand" is folly, our biggest enemy, downright dangerous.

Most people (even those in the US govt. which leads the world in attempting to reduce terror) do not FULLY understand the reasons why 1. extremist terror was inevitable, 2. what the real motivations for it actually are, and 3. the full extent of what will happen in the future and 4. By using the Facts we know as a base, how predictable many future attacks are.

Because we have observed closely for so long, and using good old reliable basic common sense, we have been scary accurate, btw, in our own personal projections / predictions to date. Their returning to the towers (after a failed try in 1993) was a total no-brainer of course, along with pentagon and white house via commercial aircraft (exactly as was previously known to be planned in the foiled - in - Manila on Jan 22, 1995, Ranji Yousef Asia plot). Duhhhhh??
Philippine Security had begged us to listen to what they uncovered in 1995 ... and thus, to see our own future.
More later on that one, and on the mystery as to why so little has been said of it in N. Am. and Europe.
Bali, spain, britain etc. were slightly less obvious calls.

France, alight for 2 1/2 weeks (and soon to be followed by the rest of Europe) was so obvious and predictable that claiming any credit for calling that one would be bad joke.

On the basis of those "calls", ...Canucks, and especially BCites,... you dont want to know what world known city we figure is at, or very near the top, of the "fairly soon to be hit" list!

Total War has been declared upon us - yet most of us still have their heads in the sand - pretending it doesn't exist will not make it go away. Human race seems to evolve? in the direction of even dumber as time goes by.

Don't expect from us, and we dont expect from anyone else the silly self - destructive Political Correctness here.
We will call it like it is..., and only from facts....

This is a "REALITY ONLY" Zone!!


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/4/2006 5:45 pm

Oct -- / 05 - Bali AGAIN !!!! Civilian areas bombed ...many non Moslem locals killed.

Oct 25 / 05 & still continuing - France Alight !!! While govt. takes blame for Frenchmen - blame the victim, blame yourself, what else is new? for the the left... Govt. takes 2 weeks to speak out against it and to impliment martial law.

Nov. 08 / 05 - Australia arrests 17 in major civilian attack plot in final stages. PM Howard adamant on prosecution and starts stronger laws to help stop more terrorism. Hmmmm, do you think he might know something we dont??

Nov 09 / 05 - Indonesian major plotter / bombmaker accidentally blows up self and mates while trying to kill police in attempt to avoid capture. BTW, Indonesia is 4th largest population in the world, just something to think about.

Nov 09 / 05 - Amman Jordan, 3 hotels. Mostly Arab Moslems killed - like they really care, even about their own "disposables" - whatever it takes to reach their objective.

Is there a Pattern Here???, a commom thread?? Duhhhhh??

Wonder what treat they have planned for civilians Tomorrow??


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/4/2006 5:55 pm


Today Ariel Sharron had second setback .... IS very serious this time .... while Palestinians dance in the streets .... They have been so "tainted" by their so called leaders ... sucked up to by Europe .. If they only knew ... Sharron was REALLY trying to make peace for and with them ...Like NO ONE else in their camp EVER did!!! ...

others "Talked" peace for their Political Advantage ...

He "DID" Peace .. to his Political DISADVANTAGE. THAT is Courage!! That is Integrity

The Left's "devil, warrior, right winger, cold killer, tough guy ..." was actually the ONLY one who actually DID things toward peace ... all the others talked only!

He was the ONLY hope they ever had .. the ONLY one who really might DO IT! ...

There NEVER has been anyone on in either camp who REALLY could or would do it ...

now, he is likely stopped. If so, there will likely NEVER be peace there now ... never ... sooooooooo damned sad .... so damned uneccessary...

They Blew It!! He can no longer save them from themslves ... All they have now is The terrible horrible hatefull legacy of Yasser, their hero?????????


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/4/2006 9:50 pm

Very Latest!!! .... Sharon survived 6 hour surgery ro remove blood from hemorage in his brain.

However, motivational giant that he is, it is too much to hope for that he will ever again be able to provide his vision for peace, and his willingness to give up what was needed to achieve it.

Because of the usual Misinformation and Political Bias, most of the world will not really morn this loss .. they should, if they only could see the reality rather than what the "Air(Head) Americas" of the world serve to them, like they are sheep.

Know it or not, The world looses BIG Time on this one!!


dayman7 57M

1/7/2006 7:43 am

Lil,
I have read every post in this section and I am still looking for the "reality zone". There are a lot of personal opinions without any actual facts to validate them.

There NEVER has been ANYONE ELSE on in either camp who REALLY could or would do it.... Sharon is not the only man of vision just the latest. Anwar Sadat was assassinated by his own security force because he was willing to make concessions in the name of peace.

I am wondering what part of my post you considered to be "anti", it is a fact that Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheny and the rest of the White House were working on a plan to invade Iraq within months of being elected 9/11 just gave them the excuse they were looking for.

All but 2 of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia yet every mention of the Saudi's were removed from the official report by the White House. This is not surprising concidering the Bush families long established relationship with the Saudi royal family as well as the millions of dollars that they have received from the Saudi's.

If you dissagree with what I have said then enlighten me, don't insult me or trivialize my opinion or claim to hold the intellectual high ground when you do not substantiate opinion with fact.

dayman


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/7/2006 12:03 pm

Copy of Dayman Post to Another Section .. Verbatim .. Moved to here ..

Lil,
I have almost lost any hope of peace in the middle east, Sharon's successor will most probably be a "hard liner" that will unravel the progress that has been made. I fear that whoever it is will attempt to "reclaim" the settlements that returned to the Palestinians in an effort to show strength and resolve. I fear for the innocent on both sides who will suffer in the name of faith. The loss of a man such as Sharon coupled with the war mongers who control the White House will wipe away all that has been achieved in the region.
Dayman

Copy of My Reply to above in another section ... Verbatim

Would like to point you to an out of the way area to discuss the last part of your comment >> at SMELL THE COFFEE!!! where discussion on that is welcome and more appropriate.

Here, I just wanted ONLY to say how much we admired Sharon and why and how much hope for peace in our world had been hurt with his illness
..... without the Yer Typical Canajan EH! "congenital birth defect" of blindness, hate and bigotry rearing its' ugly head at all. I remove it here, BUT DO place the unrelated and very "anti" part of your post there.
(note: Actually, I placed both entire posts here .. verbatim )


dayman7 57M

1/7/2006 2:21 pm

What is the very "anti" part of my post? Is there something I am missing? I honestly do not know what you are objecting to, and considering you are accusing me of a "congenital birth defect of blindness", hate and bigotry. I would like to see you justify your insulting me.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/7/2006 2:38 pm

The Islamic Groups Followed by the Taliban and Bin Laden.
Here's an interesting look from inside out (copied verbatim) ... if anyone knows more in this area, please submit futher ... or please correct any errors if they have proof it is not all fact.

Immediately following 911, our "newly educated" press "educated" us that the Taleban and Bin Laden are Fundamentalists of the Saudi Wahhabi Moslems.

In truth, the Taliban belonged to what is known as the Deobandi movement, named after the small town of Deoband in the Indian Himalayas. It was here that the movement was founded, in the 1860s,
during the period of British rule in India.”

Bin Laden follows a similar, but separate sect called Qutb's . Qutbism is a modern revolutionary movement and unrepresentative of the orthodoxy of true Islam:
"The inspiration for thought is not so much the Quran, but the current of western philosophy embodied in thinkers such as Nietzsche, Kierkegaard and Heidegger. Qutb's thought -- the blueprint for all subsequent radical Islamist political theology -- is as much a response to 20th-century Europe's experience of 'the death of God' as to anything in the Islamic tradition. Qutbism is in no way traditional. Like all fundamentalist ideology, it is unmistakably modern."
Speaking about the incontestable link that exists between Bin Laden and Qutbism, the Arab News' Amir Taheri said: "In time, Maudoodo-Qutbism provided the ideological topos in which Bin Ladenism could grow."

Shaykh Rabee' ibn Hadi al-Madkhali, the renowned Salafi scholar who has written several books refuting the mistakes of Sayyid Qutb, concludes the following about Qutbism: "The Qutbists are the followers of Sayyid Qutb… everything you see of the tribulations, the shedding of blood and the problems in the Islamic world today arise from the methodology (of this man)."

This form of extremism has been inspired by the writings of influential modernist, and NOT Fundamentalist radicals, such as Sayyid Qutb of Egypt, who believe that virtually all Islam is in a state of unbelief and needs to be reconquered. Thus, in its modern form, Bin Laden's kind of extremism has much more in common with Stalin, Hitler, and Mao than it does with Islamic tradition. Like those state terrorists, Bin Laden is at war with his own people. And finally, I have boldly asserted that Bin Laden and his extremists are evil, pure and simple, and Islam is not."

From "the wahhabi myth"


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/7/2006 2:44 pm

Apologies that this is out of chronological order . had blog accident

Dec 04 05 U.S. at Risk, Sept. 11 Panel Says

WASHINGTON – The U.S. is at great risk for more terrorist attacks because Congress and the White House have failed to enact several strong security measures, members of the former Sept. 11 commission said Sunday.

"It's not a priority for the government right now," said the former chairman, Thomas Kean, ahead of the group's release of a report Monday assessing how well its recommendations have been followed.

"More than four years after 9/11 ... people are not paying attention," the former Republican governor of New Jersey said. "God help us if we have another attack."

Added Lee Hamilton, the former Democratic vice chairman of the commission: "We believe that another attack will occur. It's not a question of if. We are not as well-prepared as we should be."

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Musharraf Confirms Al Qaeda Death

PESHAWAR, Pakistan – One of Al Qaeda's top five leaders, said to be responsible for planning overseas strikes, was killed by Pakistani security forces in a rocket attack near the Afghan border with U.S. help, American and Pakistani officials said Saturday.

Hamza Rabia, a key associate of Al Qaeda No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri, died Thursday in an explosion in the North Waziristan tribal area, and his remains were identified in DNA tests, Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed said.

Two U.S. counterterrorism officials, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because of the information's sensitivity, confirmed Rabia's death but would not elaborate on the circumstances.

The officials said Rabia was believed to be an Egyptian and head of Al Qaeda's foreign operations, possibly as senior as the No. 3 official in the terrorist group. That would put him in a tier just below Usama bin Laden and al-Zawahri.

"He was Al Qaeda's No. 5 and this is what we know," Ahmed told The Associated Press.

Rabia filled the vacuum created this year by the capture of the previous operations chief, Abu Faraj al-Libbi, the two U.S. officials said.

NBC, citing anonymous officials, reported Saturday that the attack was launched by a U.S. drone. The Dawn newspaper, also citing sources it did not identify, reported that the attack on a mud-walled home near Miran Shah may have been launched from two pilotless planes

Other Pakistani intelligence officials, also not identifying themselves for the same reason, said U.S. assistance played a critical role in tracking down Rabia and "eliminating the threat" that he posed.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/7/2006 7:21 pm

If I seem sad and frustrated writing the above ... it is because i am. ........ We keep trying ... hoping our countrymen will get real

In 1990, 15 yrs ago, we realized our country had degenerated rapidly for the previous 15 years ... .. already had become a mere shell of its' former self ...... We found excuses to live in the states for 5 years ... then /Asia for 5 years .... it didn't hurt so much when we didn't have to look at it every day.

Now, living here again ..... seeing the hate ... feeling the hate ... seeing the grossly distorted picture we get of the world and of reality, ... seeing my countrymen "buy into" the lies and distortions of our press ... seeing so many fall for it ...seeing them actually "glom onto" and enjoy it ...... feeling their hate of the US turning them on like sex ... watching them orgasm from jealousy and hate ... living with the "knowing" that at any moment in a conversation pent up anti Yankee words will spew out ... feeling their "its so powerful we cant stop ourselves" overtake them ... seeing, no matter what the subject is, many cant stop themselves from turning it to their subject of hate ... .... IT HURTS!!!!

Installing the most incompetent leaders in the world .... being embarrassed that they and ourselves were becoming a joke in the world ...... becoming know worldwide as a top hotbed for codling developing terrorist groups (likely only to defy the US's wishes that we not do so)

.... the male half wondering why his close family died to save this county for him .... for what? ... for it to become this? ... for its' selfish people to become what they have become? ... for nothing, for nothing!!

For a long time ... we thought our countrymen were big enough to become big people again, proud of themselves in their own right .... making a country that we all could be proud of. ....We was wrong.

......Now. watching our country slowly finish dying ... ashamed and alarmed that it has become so consumed by the hate, and jealousy, selfishness and self-righteousness within its people ...

I Feel So Sad

Our country's "Reason to Be" has degenerated into nothing more than what we are "against" and don't like .... demonstrating no commitment to anything beyond "What we are NOT"
There is no more "What we ARE"

We Cry for it Every Day ... no, every moment

LilJessicaSquirtAndMate_ReallyHurtToHelplesslyWatch_ AOnceGreatCountrySlowlyDie


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/7/2006 11:09 pm

dayman ..... please know that the directly above post is not for you at all

... it is the 30 year cumulation of seeing, and feeling the slow deterioration of a once great country slowly turning sour .... finally admitting that it had slide into nothingness ....no purpose ... no identity .... nothing left but individuals thinking only of themselves .... mocking the thousands who died to give them what was then a great country ..... a people now using hate and jealousy for another country for their only adrenaline ... for their only identity.

This is merely the expression of our sadness which grew insidiously over the past 30 years.... and an admission to self that Canada will never come back.

And, it is the knowing that one morning we will turn on the TV to find that either we have been hit extremely hard (because we are such an easy target, so weak, and have so many already here that would do it) ... or ..... the US has been horribly hit by those who trained and planned in our country (despite warnings from all over the western world for us to get real and eliminate them). Either way, it will be catastrophic for this now feeble country.

This gut spewing is only because of our countries weakness .. it has nothing to do with you.

note: Within 5 minutes of learning about 9 /11, we figured and feared that it was highly likely they plotted here in Canada and came from here. On morn of 9 /12 we learned that they didnt come from here. (4 were not Saudis i think).
Next time, that is a probability, not just a possibility that they will come from here .. . and whatever happens from that, it will be our own fault.


dayman7 57M

1/8/2006 9:40 am

Wow! I never dreamed some comments on a blog would evoke such a venomous reply. After reading your comments I can't believe you are accusing me of uttering hateful statements. For the record I do not hate the US and I think when President Bush describes himself, and I quote, as a "war time President" as well as the fact that his family and friends are enjoying windfall profits from their investments in defence contracters and from the record oil prices caused by his administrations actions I tend to get very cynical. How you make the quantum leap from my characterizing of the Bush administration to hating the US is beyond me.

I was at home watching CNN when 9/11 happened....I watched in horror the 2nd plane hit live. I too hoped that the people responsable did not come from Canada, I also fear that we will be the next target because of the ease in which people can enter our country, whether their entry be by legal or illegal means and our inadequate intelligence gathering. The Air India bombing made that very clear.

I probably won't post here again, after having you try to cut my balls off I'm afraid of what you're going to go for next.
dayman


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/8/2006 10:56 am

...picturing poor dayman covering his crotch .... lol

You still refuse to answer very first question,
"The loss of a man such as Sharon coupled with the war mongers who control the White House will wipe away all that has been achieved in the region."

Now, isnt that an appropriate and agendaless genuine statement? Why didnt you just praise Shiron leave it at that? Why? .... gave you the chance, .. so I will answer it for you..... because, like a typical canuck, you "couldnt stop yourself" from bashing.


dayman7 57M

1/8/2006 11:27 am

One last post, I apologize for adding my comment about the Bush administration to your posts honouring Ariel Sharon, upon reflection I see that it was inappropriate.

I also like to applaud your passion, your partner is a very lucky man. It is the absense of passion in my own life that led me to this site to begin with. I think that it is what we lack the most as a nation. I actually agree with most of what you say regarding our country except for the hateing of the US. Hate is a strong emotion and I fear we have been so lulled to sleep with a false sense of security that as a nation that we are incapable of the passion required to truly hate.

Tomorrow my paid membership will expire and I will remove my profile from this service. After 3 disapointing months during which time I was unable to get anyone to even meet me, I see no point in renewing my membership.
Good-bye,
dayman


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/8/2006 5:07 pm

dayman ... I hope you do return at least once more.

Your words actually bring tears

I will reply appropriately shortly .. Pls. give me just a lil more time


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/8/2006 5:59 pm

dayman ... I hope you do return at least once more.


Reading your immediately above post, we actually disagree on very little, you and I ... in principal we disagree on even less.
Your words actually bring tears

Quote: I apologize for adding my comment about the Bush administration to your posts honouring Ariel Sharon, upon reflection I see that it was inappropriate.

On the Shiron post, I WAS right and so refused to back off it ... thank you for the apology, Accepted Fully and greatfully appreciated ... and MUCH Respected!.

Quote: ."Hate is a strong emotion and I fear we have been so lulled to sleep with a false sense of security that as a nation that we are incapable of the passion required to truly hate. "

You really got me to on that one ... lol ..... I agree to all of that.
Those words make me really think hard .... and You are Right on that one ... My Apologies for coming back with the word "hate". You explained how I felt better than I did, by saying it without "that" word.

Seems mainly my use of the word "hate" which I applied to motive for anti bush statements caused us both to loose focus.. My fault .. Maybe if I had used another word, you might have responded differently also, and we would both have seen where the other person was actually "cuming from" (aw, the latitudes we can take on a sex site, lol) from the start.

"My Passion, lol.....true ..... but, im not alone there .....yours is wonderfull to see!!!!
And your words re: our country has lost passion, do explain a lot toward what is happening here ... and that "vitality" we have lost. I also think it partially explains why we, as a country, criticize others so much, ... instead of looking within and fixing ourselves. You are right, hate requires passion.
I'll try to find a better word to use for it in future .. thanks for the tip!!

Really sorry to see you go ... .sorry that you have not had success here .... Wish for you the VERY BEST and hope you find that Passionate Lady at some point, sooner rather than later in fact.

If you wish to drop in as "regular" member ANYTIME you will ALWAYS be welcomed!!!

LilJessicaSquirt_WillReallyMissDaymanAndHopesVeryBest4Him


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/9/2006 10:49 pm

Dayman ...... i hope all is well now .... i saw that u were bi here cpl times, but didnt post ..... im trying to make it all right here, appreciate your apology and .... offer my apology to you in FULL!!! . ... consider you one neat person, as well as neat guy .....want to make it right with you ... really good people dont come along often .... dont wanna let one slip by ... J

oh, did u get my message of last night??


dayman7 57M

1/10/2006 2:33 pm

Hi Lil,
I'm sorry that I did not post yesterday, today is the 4th anniversary of my accident and I was a little blue. Also after rereading my other posts in this section I found to my embarrassment that I had tried to defend an undefendable position and had caused both of us both alot of unneccessary grief. Thank-you for your kind words and for accepting my apology.

I am preparing a post that will offer my feelings on Canadian apathy, but I will take the time to measure my words so that they are not clouded by emotion. After much contemplation I have decided to abandon my search for that special couple, the obstacles in the way have proven to be just too great to overcome.

The voyuer in me has led me to extend my membership and this will also allow me to send you a personal message from time to time, not every thing I have to say will be for public consumption. I will cotinue to post here if you have no objections. It has been a long time since someone has taken me to task over a statement that I had made and I had forgotten how stimulating it can be. "A mind is a terrible thing to waste."
Adieu mon cher,
dayman


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/10/2006 3:25 pm

Dayman
That anniversary must weigh heavy on you. It was some time since you described this, both 4 years ago status and today status. I recall most of what you described, not sure if totally exactly. You may have done so by message I think, and that would be deleted by a f f because of their duration limit, so I cannot go back to it to confirm accuracy of my memory.

A post on Canadian apathy by a wise thinker and fair person as yourself will be looked forward to by ourselves here. I merely touch on it above, and mainly as it relates to terrorism. I suspect you intend to cover it in much broader terms ....

lol .... so, your "voyeur" won out. I can laff, as both of us are very voyeur .... as well as we enjoy "treating" other voyeurs (i guess that's what is termed exhibitionistic? .... both sides of it? ... does that make us bi? lol).

Ojections?, absolutely not ...in fact I ENCOURAGE you to post in any area, or message if you wish ....Please! Even if or when you drop your paid membership, you can still post on blog anytime.

Once again, my apology for attaching the "H" word to your words.

So pleased that you did return! You are Special!
J


dayman7 57M

1/12/2006 1:11 pm

Lil,

I have sent you an e-mail explaining why I will probably not post for a little while. Please pardon my brevity at this time, but I think my e-mail will explain everything.

Parting is such sweet sorrow,
dayman


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/12/2006 5:37 pm

Got your message, and thank you.

Hope your latest plan does work .... Very Best to You .....let's stay in touch, please.

J


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/17/2006 11:18 am

dayman ..... noticed you had been by a time or 2 ... it is always a warm feeling for me when u come by ..... whether post or not .... "feeling your presence" is always good.
J.


dayman7 57M

1/17/2006 11:45 am

Dear J,
Thank you for your very kind words. Unfortunatly my appointment did not go as I had hoped so I am feeling a little sorry for myself right now. I will author a more meaningful post after the blue funk has gone away.
dayman


aLilSquirt_mfm 67M/67F
24 posts
1/19/2006 3:26 pm

Islamic Jihad Claims Suicide Bombing at Tel Aviv Bus Station Thursday, January 19, 2006

TEL AVIV, Israel – A Palestinian suicide bomber blew himself up at a Tel Aviv fast-food stand Thursday, wounding 20 people in an apparent attempt to destabilize the region just a week before the Palestinian parliamentary elections.

The militant Islamic Jihad group claimed responsibility in a telephone call to The Associated Press. The group has been responsible for all six suicide bombings in Israel in the past year, and is the only faction boycotting the Jan. 25 vote.

The bomber, who witnesses said pretended to be a peddler selling disposable razors, walked into "The Mayor's Shwarma" in a crowded pedestrian mall near the old central bus station. Most of the customers were sitting at sidewalk tables, rather than indoors, because of the sunny weather.

Yehiel Ohana, who works in a nearby store, said the bomber wore a black coat and black stocking cap aroused his suspicions because of his unsteady gait.

"The guy was standing at the corner of the street, looking like he was waiting for someone," Ohana said. "He swayed strangely. Then he went into the shwarma stand, and two to three seconds later, we heard the explosion. Everything shuddered. We entered the shwarma stand, and we saw him lying on the floor, and then we understood he was a suicide bomber."


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/20/2006 9:31 am

Musharraf Confirms Al Qaeda Death
Sunday, December 04, 2005

PESHAWAR, Pakistan – One of Al Qaeda's top five leaders, said to be responsible for planning overseas strikes, was killed by Pakistani security forces in a rocket attack near the Afghan border with U.S. help, American and Pakistani officials said Saturday.

Hamza Rabia, a key associate of Al Qaeda No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri, died Thursday in an explosion in the North Waziristan tribal area, and his remains were identified in DNA tests, Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed said.

Two U.S. counterterrorism officials, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because of the information's sensitivity, confirmed Rabia's death but would not elaborate on the circumstances.

The officials said Rabia was believed to be an Egyptian and head of Al Qaeda's foreign operations, possibly as senior as the No. 3 official in the terrorist group. That would put him in a tier just below Usama bin Laden and al-Zawahri.

"He was Al Qaeda's No. 5 and this is what we know," Ahmed told The Associated Press.

Rabia filled the vacuum created this year by the capture of the previous operations chief, Abu Faraj al-Libbi, the two U.S. officials said.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/20/2006 9:38 am

thank you for your note ... especially when you are blue ... really sorry that your appointment didnt work well ... will look forward to hearing later

really meant it that feeling your presence is special
J.


dayman7 57M

1/20/2006 12:05 pm

Dear Lil',

I fear that we may never see a lasting and permanent peace in the Middle East because there's so many different factions in the Arab world, each with their own agenda. For there to truly be a lasting and permanent peace in the region it would take the cooperation of every faction and party with interests in the region, but it only takes one faction to maintain the status quo.

dayman


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/20/2006 1:29 pm

Dear Dayman

Yes, I totally agree that the possibiliy is unlikely .... as soon as one agrees, other factions not only dissagree, but deliberately start actively bombing to make sure they screw it up .... similar, but more manageable on the other side (as Shiron proved)

I never felt that Shiron's efforts and intentions were "likely" to succeed, BUT, i did feel they were the only chance there was. What a giant he was ... the brilliant war general with the wisest vision of concilliation and peace ever. And he got a majority of his people to agree and trust him. Contrary to how many feel, i think many military types know what war is .. and want peace more than many civians as a result. (baiting the "peacenicks" there a bit, lol,...but i do believe this).
I agree with you also that Sadat was great, courageous, of vision, ... he started things in a good direction, but it had little effect on palestinians .. Arafat hated him for it and assisted his people to do likewise. (was it Rabin that he worked with?)

So sad, Arafat is reveerd, yet his legacy leaves them with only hate and fear ... not hope of any kind .... so sad ... so hopeless a situation. He allowed the fighters to exist andgrow, to retain power ... afraid to confront them ... the monsters he created and / or allowed soon controlled him. Children growing up being taught only to hate and distrust ... guarantying at least another generation or 2 of no hope ... so sad. (used the "H" word for this situation, only as i believe it truly fits here ... and is the "stopper", no matter what anyone does)

Great that you visit dayman .. thank you!!!
J.


bootielover3 56M

1/20/2006 3:13 pm

Lil, I have read this entire post and agree with most of the conclusions you have drawn. I really did not have alot to add to the discussion until yesterday.

There was an article in the Detroit News By Terry Ahwal about Ariel Sharon. In his article he decries Sharon's actions through out his career and there are two things he said that shows that he along with many others really have no conception of the truth. He states that while he (Sharon) was defense minister he led the invasion of Lebanon. What he doesn't comment on was why he did so, as I am a student of history I was interested to see that no mention of Hamas's almost daily mortar and missle attacks from the Beka valley on northern villages along the border was the driving force behind this action.

Finally near the end of the piece he attempts to compare Sharon with Gandhi, Mandela and King. These men were operating on different agendas. While Sharon is defending his goverment and his people from terrorists and hostile foreign goverments, the other men were using civil disobeince to change their own goverments from within the laws of said goverments.

I feel that he was striving for peace just not at the cost of his country and people.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/20/2006 4:34 pm

Canada 'soft target' for al Qaeda:
terror expert Updated Fri. Jan. 20 2006 1:30 PM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

Canadians "should be very concerned" about an al Qaeda threat to carry out more attacks on the West, a terrorism expert warned today.

Eric Margolis told CTV's Canada AM that Canada's involvement in Afghanistan meant it was "on the list of targets" and was a "softer target" than the United States.

"There is very clearly a threat," Margolis said Friday.

"Until Canadian troops went to Afghanistan there was no threat from bin Laden or like-minded Jihadi groups. Now the Canadian troops are actively engaged in war in Afghanistan.

"I think Canadians should be very concerned."

Margolis was speaking the day after an audio tape carrying the voice of Osama bin Laden warned that al Qaeda was preparing new attacks on the United States.

The tape, confirmed by CIA officials to be the voice of bin Laden, was aired on Arab television network Al Jazeera and warned that plans for terror attacks were already under way.

"It's only a matter of time. You will see them in the heart of your land as soon as the planning is complete," the voice said.

However, bin Laden was also heard to offer a "long-term truce."

"We do not mind offering you a truce that is fair and long-term. ... So we can build Iraq and Afghanistan," he said.

Washington quickly rejected the truce offer, saying "we do not negotiate with terrorists."

Margolis said the message was "clearly intended for western audiences."

"He's very clear in his statement. If you stop fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan ...we will stop fighting you and there will be a long-term truce," he told AM.

Margolis also added that he believed bin Laden was "in deep hiding."

"I believe he's in the cellar of somebody's house in a compound probably in Karachi, Pakistan. He's under total deep cover."

The audio tape is the first time bin Laden has been heard from since he released two audio tapes in December 2004.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/20/2006 4:41 pm

"Until Canadian troops went to Afghanistan there was no threat from bin Laden or like-minded Jihadi groups. Now the Canadian troops are actively engaged in war in Afghanistan.

Dont agree with that line at all. Sounds "political" to me ... Canada was always a Top Target ... so many radicals harboured here .... + we are sooo soft (easy target is their style) and he ignores the motivation of the enemy .... we are not a moslem country ... THAT is our sin ... that is what makes us the enemy ...so many in life like to blame the victim, or blame "ourselves".


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/20/2006 5:21 pm

bootielover3

My apologies for not replying sooner ..... missed this one before i did.

" What he doesn't comment on was why he did so" .............."almost daily mortar and missle attacks from the Beka valley on northern villages"

booty ... absolutely the fact of the matter .... no one on earth has been so provoked, constant mortars, bombings ... Europeans and our press never castigate the one sude for their acts, only make it an issue when israel retaliates .... so many, from an obvious political bent, blame Israel for everything .... seems to us that they are actually antisemetic, although they play at political correctess .. or maybe it's just anti administration, no matter what the issue ... or some of both?? (our opinion)

Shiron was a man of peace ... as you say SO well, "I feel that he was striving for peace just not at the cost of his country and people."

Thank you for your comments ... you are well cum anytime to comment, initiate ...or take us to task if we get carried away, or misstate a fact. I will respect your doing so.

Thanks ... Lil & Mate


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/20/2006 7:26 pm

INDEPTH: OSAMA BIN LADENWho is Osama bin Laden?
CBC News Online | Jan. 19, 2006

American soldiers patrol a stretch of road in Paktia province near the Pakistani border, March 1, 2004 near Khost, about 200 kilometres southeast of Kabul. (AP Photo/Ed Wray)
On March 7, 2004, as the snows melted in the mountains of Afghanistan and U.S. President George W. Bush eyed a November election, the United States launched Operation Mountain Storm in the rugged border between Afghanistan and Pakistan to find the elusive Osama bin Laden.

The United States said the operation, based at their headquarters in Kandahar, would unfold in secret across eastern and southern Afghanistan. Spokesperson Lt.-Col. Bryan Hiferty gave few details when he confirmed on March 13 that Operation Mountain Storm was underway, but he did tell the Associated Press, "The leaders of al-Qaeda and the leader of the Taliban need to be brought to justice ‒ and they will be."

The U.S. also sent the elite special forces outfit, Task Force 121, a joint unit of commandos and CIA officers, to the border region to find bin Laden and the leader of the Taliban, Mullah Muhammed Omar. Intelligence sources have told several U.S. media organizations that Task Force 121 was key in tracking down the former president of Iraq, Saddam Hussein, and after that success, the task force was sent to Afghanistan.

Osama bin Laden
There is one big difference between Saddam, and bin Laden and many of his al-Qaeda and Taliban followers. While Saddam spent most of his time in luxury, choosing which palace to sleep in each night, bin Laden and his men have years of experience dodging a previous enemy, the Soviet Union, which occupied Afghanistan until it was driven out in the 1980s.

Bin Laden was still at large in January 2006. Many experts believe that bin Laden remains in hiding somewhere in the mountains near Khowst, an area that European intelligence sources have told the media is still controlled by the Taliban. It is an area of old tribal loyalties, where local leaders have always been fiercely independent from any ruler of Afghanistan or Pakistan.

Pakistani security forces have also stepped up operations in the border area. Reports say that President Perez Musharraf was reluctant to stir up the hornets' nest of tribes and Islamic fundamentalists in the region, until a couple of failed attempts to assassinate him.

There have been accusations both in the American media and from Europe that while the United States painted bin Laden as public enemy number 1, the Americans "neglected" Afghanistan when its focus turned to Iraq in March 2003, a charge top U.S. officials vehemently deny.

There are also persistent reports that the U.S. invasion of Iraq changed al-Qaeda's focus, with bin Laden and his senior advisors moving resources from Afghanistan to Iraq because it was a good place to fight "the American crusaders," according to a Taliban source quoted by Newsweek magazine.

A new generation

The Washington Post has reported that there is a new generation of al-Qaeda, led by Osama's eldest son, Saad bin Laden, 24, who is said to be in Iran along with Saif el-Adel, al-Qaeda's chief of military operations, and Abullah Ahmed Abdullah, al-Qaeda's chief financial officer. The three and their followers are, according to the Post, surrounded by an elite Iranian security force, loyal to hard-line Iranian Islamists, who act both as guards and jailers, both preventing attack or arrest and restricting their movements.

However, communication between father and son is apparently still possible, using written messages carried by courier and sometimes even satellite phones, which according to some sources, are hard for U.S. signals intelligence to pinpoint in the rugged mountains.

According to the Washington Post, intelligence sources believe that the orders and organization for two suicide bombings, in Saudi Arabia and Morocco in May 2003, came through Saad bin Laden, rather than directly from his father. Despite American efforts, or perhaps because of them, Osama bin Laden is a hero to many people in the Middle East and South Asia. Bazaars and marketplaces are full with bin Laden merchandise including posters, video and audio tapes, and T-shirts.

The life of Osama bin Laden

Osama bin Laden has been called America's most wanted terrorist suspect at least since the bombing in 1998 of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.

The U.S. State Department said bin Laden is "one of the most significant financial sponsors of Islamic extremist activities in the world."

His code name, "The Contractor," is maybe the best indicator of bin Laden's link to terrorism. Officials in many countries including the United States say that bin Laden's money has paid for attacks in Europe, Africa and the Middle East. His personal wealth is estimated at $250 million US.

Osama bin Laden is believed to be the youngest of 24 brothers in a family that came from Yemen and built up one of the largest construction companies in the Arab world, Bin Laden Group, an empire based in the Saudi city of Jidda that made its fortune in building projects for the Saudi royal family.

As a teenager and a young man, Osama bin Laden was reported to be a typical Saudi of his generation, a bit of a playboy who used his family fortune to have fun outside of Saudi Arabia in Europe and the Gulf states.

The invasion of Afghanistan by the Soviet Union in 1979 changed bin Laden's life. Like many young Islamists, he went to Afghanistan to help fight the invaders, to take part in the jihad against the infidel Soviets.

Bin Laden apparently received training from the CIA, which was backing the Afghan holy warriors ‒ the mujahedeen ‒ who were tying down Soviet forces in Afghanistan.

He gave the family money and his own expertise gleaned from the family business to MAK, Maktab al-Khidimat, which recruited young Muslim men from around the world. He also used his fortune to help buy equipment for the Afghan resistance.

In 1984, he helped Abdullah Azzam, founder of the Pakistani "Office of Services," establish training camps across the border in Afghanistan. The Office of Services' goal was to recruit and train Muslim volunteers. Bin Laden provided financial support and handling of military affairs. Two years later, in 1986, Bin Laden established his own training camp for Persian Gulf Arabs called al Masadah, or the Lion's Den.

In 1988, as the Soviet occupation faltered in Afghanistan, bin Laden turned to a global crusade. He founded the group called al-Qaeda, Arabic for The Base. According to one report from the CIA in 2001, al-Qaeda had at least 5,000 trained militants, who created cells in 50 countries. The purpose of these camps was to take militants from around the world and shape them into an international network that would bring all Muslims under a militant version of Islamic law.

In 1989, the collapsing Soviet Union withdrew from Afghanistan and bin Laden returned to Saudi Arabia to join his family's construction company. He kept up his contacts with al-Qaeda.

In 1991, bin Laden moved the headquarters of al-Qaeda to Sudan, where a militant Islamic government had come to power. In 1993, a bomb exploded in an underground parking garage at the World Trade Center in New York, killing six people and injuring another 1,000. The attack was linked to al-Qaeda.

In 1994, Saudi Arabia stripped bin Laden of citizenship for alleged terrorist links and his family disavowed him, at least publicly.

In 1996, bin Laden was forced to leave Sudan for Afghanistan following intense pressure from the U.S. on the government. While in Sudan, bin Laden met a man who was probably a key ally, Imad Mugniyah, a Lebanese said to be a leader of Hezbollah, wanted by the United States for kidnappings and killings during the civil war in Lebanon in the 1980s. By September of that year, the militant Taliban, capitalizing on the divisions in Afghanistan, which was torn by civil war between the mujahedeen factions, took over the country and imposed strict Islamic rule. Bin Laden's son Saad was with Osama when he returned to Afghanistan.

By 1998, bin Laden had teamed up with an Egyptian militant, Ayman Zawahiri, to form "The International Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders," which acted as an umbrella group for international militant groups. It issued a religious order saying it was a religious duty of Muslims to kill Americans anywhere possible. The group in effect declared war against the West, but the declaration was ignored by most of the media and discounted by many in the intelligence community. In October 1998, the U.S. Justice Dept. indicted bin Laden for his alleged role in ordering the bombing of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.

In 1999, bin Laden moved to the village of Farmifadda, Afghanistan, and later settled in a compound near Jalalabad. In October 2000, suicide bombers attacked the U.S.S. Cole in Aden harbour in Yemen. Bin Laden was suspected of ordering the attack.

On September 11, 2001, members of al-Qaeda hijacked American passenger planes and attacked New York and Washington. Soon after the attack, bin Laden and his associates fled Jalalabad for the mountains. On Oct. 7, the United States and its allies began the attack on Afghanistan and the Taliban regime quickly collapsed.

In December 2001, U.S. intelligence pinpointed bin Laden in a cave complex at Tora Bora. U.S. special and regular forces and Afghan allies attacked the caves, but bin Laden successfully slipped through their fingers and disappeared into the mountains.

In his own words:

In an interview with ABC correspondent John Miller on May 28, Bin Laden made the following comment on the fatwa issued calling Muslims to kill Americans regardless of whether they are civilians or military:

"Allah ordered us in this religion to purify Muslim land of all non-believers… After World War II, the Americans became more aggressive and oppressive, especially in the Muslim world. American history does not distinguish between civilians and military, and not even women and children. They are the ones who used the bombs against Nagasaki. Can these bombs distinguish between infants and military? America does not have a religion that will prevent it from destroying all people."


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/20/2006 7:31 pm

Al-Qaeda timeline
CBC News Online | Updated May 4, 2005

May 4, 2005:
Pakistani security forces announce they have arrested Abu Faraj Farj al-Libbi, the senior al-Qaeda militant suspected of planning two assassination attempts against President Pervez Musharraf. Al-Libbi is a close associate of Osama bin Laden and the head of al-Qaeda operations in Pakistan.
» CBC News: Al-Qaeda's top man in Pakistan caught

April 22, 2005:
The trial of 24 alleged al-Qaeda members opens in Spain. Three of the men are accused of helping plan the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in the U.S.
» CBC News: Spanish 9/11 trial opens

Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called "20th hijacker," pleads guilty to all charges against him in connection with the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
» CBC News: Moussaoui pleads guilty

Jan. 21, 2005:
Doubleday announces plans to publish English translations of interviews with Osama bin Laden in 2006 under the tentative title The al-Qaeda Reader.
» CBC Arts: Doubleday to publish bin Laden book

Dec. 16, 2004:
A new audio message thought to be from Osama bin Laden is found on an Islamic website. The audiotape criticizes Saudi Arabia's government for being too close to the United States.
» CBC News: Alleged bin Laden tape posted on website

Jeddah, Saudi Arabia (AP photo)
Dec. 6, 2004:
The Saudi wing of al-Qaeda claims responsibility for an attack on the American Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, that killed five staff members and left four militants dead.
» CBC News: Al-Qaeda group claims to have carried out Jeddah attack

Oct. 29, 2004:
In a message broadcast by Al-Jazeera, Osama bin Laden claims direct responsibility for the 2001 attacks against the United States.
» CBC News: Bin Laden claims responsibility for 9/11
» More on the al-Qaeda tapes

Oct. 15, 2004:
German authorities arrest Mamoun Darkazanli, a suspected al-Qaeda financier, on a Spanish warrant in Hamburg.
» CBC News: Suspected al-Qaeda financier detained

Sept. 26, 2004:
Pakistani police shoot and kill Amjad Hussain Farooqi, a top al-Qaeda official, in Nawabshahm, Pakistan. Farooqi was suspected of plotting attacks on the Pakistani president.
» CBC News: Pakistan kills al-Qaeda leader

Aug. 8, 2004:
Qari Saifullah Akhtar, a top-level al-Qaeda member accused of running a training camp in Afghanistan is arrested in the United Arab Emirates.
» CBC News: Senior al-Qaeda member captured

Aug. 3, 2004:
Pakistani government officials announce the arrest of several key al-Qaeda suspects.
» CBC News: Pakistan rounds up key al-Qaeda suspects

Osama bin Laden
July 12, 2004:
Khaled bin Ouda bin Mohammed al-Harby, a sheik and a confidant of bin Laden, surrenders to Saudi officials in Iran.
» CBC News: Bin Laden confidant surrenders

July 7, 2004:
Six Yemenis are charged with planning the October 2000 bombing of the USS Cole.
» CBC News: Six Yemenis charged in USS Cole attack

June 25, 2004:
The group Tawhid and Jihad, led by al-Qaeda-linked militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, claims responsibility for a series of attacks across Iraq.
» CBC News: Al-Qaeda group claims responsibility for deadly attacks in Iraq

June 18, 2004:

Islamic militants with ties to al-Qaeda behead an American hostage, Paul Johnson
» CBC News: Al-Qaeda militants behead U.S. hostage

Abdulaziz al-Muqrin, the suspected leader of al-Qaeda in Saudi Arabia, is killed in a firefight with Saudi security forces.
» CBC News: Saudi al-Qaeda leader killed: reports

May 12, 2004:
A video posted on a website linked to al-Qaeda shows the beheading of American hostage Nick Berg. The video is entitled Abu Musab al-Zarqawi Shown Slaughtering an American. Al-Zarqawi is a lieutenant of bin Laden.
» CBC News: American civilian beheaded by captors in Iraq

April 22, 2004:
Saudi authorities blame suicide attacks in downtown Riyadh on al-Qaeda. The attacks killed 10 people.
» CBC News: Saudis blame al-Qaeda for suicide attacks

March 25, 2004:
An audio tape believed to be from Ayman al-Zawahri, number two in al-Qaeda, is broadcast on al-Jazeera, calling for the overthrow of the government in Pakistan.
» CBC News: Overthrow your president, al-Qaeda tells Pakistanis

March 11, 2004:
Bombs on commuter trains in Madrid kill 190 people and injure more than 1,800. Spain later arrests more than a dozen suspects, many of them from Morocco and believed to have ties to al-Qaeda.
» CBC News: Alleged al-Qaeda letter claims responsibility for Madrid bombings

Saudi police officer peers from the destroyed headquarters of general security services in Riyadh. (AP photo)
Nov. 11, 2003:
Saudis blame al-Qaeda for a suicide car bombing that killed 17 people in Riyadh.
» CBC News: 7 Canadians among injured in Saudi blast

May 1, 2003
U.S. President George W. Bush declares "major combat" over in Iraq.
» CBC News: Bush thanks troops for a 'job well done'
» More on Iraq

March 20, 2003:
The United States attacks Iraq.

March 1, 2003
Pakistani and U.S. agents arrest Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, one of the suspected masterminds of the Sept. 11 attacks.
» CBC News: U.S. hails arrest of accused 9/11 schemer

Jan. 30, 2003
Shoe bomber Richard Reid sentenced to life in prison.

Oct. 26, 2003
Russian special forces use gas to retake the theatre. The total death toll, from the gas and from those killed by the hostages is 128. All 41 hostage-takers are also killed.
» More on Chechnya

Oct. 23, 2003
Chechen rebels, believed to be loosely affiliated with al-Qaeda, storm a theatre in Moscow and take audience, actors and crew as hostages.

Oct. 12, 2003
Bombs in two nightclubs in Bali kill 202 people. Authorities later charges members of a local group, Jemaah Islamiyah, which has ties with al-Qaeda.
» More on the Bali bombing

March 18, 2002
The United States ends its sweep through the mountains of Afghanistan, Operation Anaconda, but most of the Taliban and al-Qaeda escape.
» CBC News: More big battles coming in Afghanistan: U.S.

Dec. 22, 2001
Shoe bomber Richard Reid tries to blow up an American Airlines jet over the Atlantic.

Dec. 11, 2001
The United States files criminal charges against the alleged "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui.
» CBC News: U.S. lays six conspiracy charges in Sept. 11 attacks

Dec. 7, 2001
Taliban forces in Kandahar surrender to American troops.
» CBC News: Kandahar surrenders, but some Taliban refuse to give up weapons

Nov. 13, 2001
Northern Alliance soldiers enter Kabul.
» CBC News: Taliban leaves Kabul without resistance

Nov. 9, 2001
The Taliban flee the northern city of Mazar-e-Sharif.
» CBC News: Taliban confirms rebel breakthrough in key city

Oct. 9, 2001
Al-Qaeda spokesman Sulaiman Abu Ghaith issues a statement calling for a holy war against the United States.
» CBC News: Taliban renews call for holy war

Oct. 7, 2001
The United States launches air strikes in Afghanistan aimed at al-Qaeda training camps and Taliban bases. Osama bin Laden, in a videotaped message, praises God for Sept. 11 attacks and swears America will never "dream of security" until "the infidels' armies leave the land of Muhammad."
» CBC News: Taliban stands firm as U.S. launches air strikes

Sept. 11, 2001
Attacks on World Trade Center in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania kill close to 3,000 people. Al-Qaeda is blamed within days of the attacks.
» More on Sept. 11

August 2001
Osama bin Laden threatens attacks on U.S.

June 19, 2001
Osama bin Laden releases a taped message, which many believe was the orders that triggered the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States. »
More on the al-Qaeda tapes

May 29, 2001
A U.S. District Court jury finds four of Osama bin Laden's followers guilty of conspiring to kill Americans, including those killed in the U.S. embassy bombings in Africa.

Oct. 12, 2000
Two suicide bombers, suspected to be associated with bin Laden, attack the navy destroyer USS Cole in Aden, Yemen, killing 17 sailors.

Nov. 4, 1998
A U.S. federal grand jury indicts Osama bin Laden in the bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa.

Feb. 22, 1998
Osama bin Laden calls for attacks on American citizens.

Aug. 7, 1998
Bombs explode at the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, killing more than 220 people and injuring 5,000. The U.S. retaliates with air strikes against suspected training camps in Sudan and Afghanistan.

June 25, 1996
Bin Laden followers bomb U.S. military base near Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, killing 19 American soldiers and wounding hundreds of Americans and Saudi Arabians.

1996
After Osama bin Laden is expelled from Sudan, al-Qaeda moves its operation to Afghanistan. Iran sponsors a re-organization of al-Qaeda with bin Laden as leader.

Nov. 13, 1995
Seven people, including five Americans, are killed when two bombs explode at a U.S.-Saudi military facility in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Osama bin Laden is blamed for the attack.

June 26, 1995
Al-Qaeda tries, unsuccessfully, to assassinate Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia

Oct. 8, 1993
Al-Qaeda supporters attack UN troops in Somalia, killing 18 U.S. servicemen

Feb. 26, 1993
A 500-kilogram bomb explodes in a garage under World Trade Center in New York, killing six and injuring 1,042. Bin Laden associate Ramzi Yousef is sentenced to life without parole in February 1998 for orchestrating the bombing.

1993
Osama bin Laden sets up militant training camps in Sudan and begins searching for nuclear material and weapons.

1989
Osama bin Laden founds an international group known as al-Qaeda, which in Arabic means "the base." It is formed primarily of mujahedeen, meaning holy warriors, and others fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/20/2006 7:42 pm

INDEPTH: OSAMA BIN LADEN
Partnership of Hate: Ayman al-Zawahri


CBC News Online Updated March 19, 2004

Reporter: Carol Off Producer: Carmen Merrifield
From The National November 7, 2001

Everyone has heard about Osama bin Laden. But what do we know about the people who surround him, the shadowy figures who help run the al-Qaeda network. There's one man who always seems to be at bin Laden's side, the man some believe was the true mastermind behind the September 11th attacks.

In one of Cairo's pleasant middle-class neighbourhoods, a rather ordinary apartment building has an extraordinary history. Among the doctors and dentists who live here is the family home of Ayman al-Zawahri. The two-storey apartment is tightly shuttered though Ayman's sister still lives here.

Second most wanted

Ayman al-Zawahri is the Egyptian who appears on terrorism lists as a second most wanted man in the world. He's the man who's now often in Afghanistan. He's the man who is working with Osama bin Laden.

For his cousin, Omar Azam, and uncle Mafous, Ayman was a gentle young man.

"He disliked boxing. He disliked those sorts of sports. And he likes to read poetry, and he writes poetry," Mafous says.

He may be a poet to his family, but to the United States, he's the embodiment of evil. The bespectacled al-Zawahri is always at the right hand of bin Laden. And many say he is actually the brains in the operation.

Ayman al-Zawahri was a surgeon from a traditional middle-class family. They were well connected everywhere from the mosque to the government. And they were highly respected throughout Cairo's society.

So how does a doctor with every possible advantage end up as the partner with Osama bin Laden in a campaign to kill Americans?

The story of Ayman al-Zawahri is the story of how Islamic militants have become such a powerful force here in Egypt. Ayman al-Zawahri was born on June 19,1951, just a year before the revolution that put an Egyptian in charge of the country for the first time. Gamal Abdel Nasser took power in a bloodless coup that got rid of the British-backed monarchy.

Muslim Brotherhood
Among the swelling masses of support was the radical Muslim Brotherhood. It hoped Nasser would make an Islamic state. Nasser turned instead to socialism. The al-Zawahri family was well established long before Nasser, both in the mosque and in politics. A grandfather was a sheik, another an ambassador to Pakistan. Ayman's great uncle was first secretary of the Arab League.

The family mosque is just as active today as it was when Ayman came here in the 1960s. The al-Zawahri's were observant people with a lot of influence in their religious society. But even as a young man, Ayman seems to have taken religion more to heart than others in his family.

Israel's humiliating defeat of Egypt in six days of war in 1967 was a blow to Nasser and to his country. Ayman al-Zawahri and his friends were just coming of age, young Egyptians with strong ideas about where their country was going.

When Islamic militants get arrested in Egypt, they turn to the one lawyer who will defend them. Montasser al Zayat is the Perry Mason of jihad warriors. He rejects their violence but respects their rights and often their cause. He was both a lawyer and a friend to al-Zawahri. The motto on his door is from the Koran: "No rule but God's rule."

The university of Cairo was awash with young people seeking an identity in the late 1960s. Their mood was anti-Israel and pro-Islam. The Muslim Brotherhood was especially popular, finding recruits among impressionable students. Ayman al-Zawahri was one of them.

Nasser brutally suppressed the Islamists. Even today the university is under constant control of riot squads.

For the young al-Zawahri, it was Islamic spring when Nasser died in 1970. Anwar Sadat took power. He promised the fundamentalists political freedom. Sadat thought the Muslim Brotherhood would help him keep power.

Fatal miscalculation

It was a fatal miscalculation. In a quiet Cairo neighbourhood, a retired Egyptian ambassador takes tea. Hussein Amin's first posting was to Canada under Diefenbaker, but he's been everywhere since. He was also able to watch Sadat develop his cozy relationship with the Islamic militants. It didn't last long.

"They thought themselves a state within a state, that they can deal with Sadat and the existing regime as equals," Amin says. "I suppose Ayman al-Zawahri saw that period, and his beliefs were moulded during that time thanks to Sadat's support for Islamic current."

In 1979, Anwar Sadat rocked the Islamic world when he made peace with Israel. The Washington-brokered Camp David accord was hailed as a great success. Sadat was considered a statesman who put the prosperity of his country ahead of all grievances with Israeli leader Menachem Begin.

U.S. President Jimmy Carter beamed, but it was far from the happiest moment for the Islamists of Egypt. For them, this was a sellout to Israel and America. The Muslim Brotherhood was the loudest voice condemning Sadat. But by the late 1970s, the movement was morphing into something more sinister. The brotherhood was on the street. Numerous small cells of activists went underground plotting against Sadat. Ayman al-Zawahri was one of them.

"Ayman al-Zawahri was one of those people who wanted to revolt against the government and implement Islamic Shariah law. From that time on, Zawahri was working secretly," says lawyer Montasser al Zayat.

Al-Zawahri finished his studies and interned as a surgeon at a public hospital. He encountered first-hand the poverty of his city, and his resolve hardened. So did Sadat's. Sadat arrested fundamentalists in the thousands, most without charges. Al-Zawahri watched all of this with anger and loathing.

General Nabawy Ismael was Sadat's minister of the interior and responsible for arresting the young militants and interrogating them. He took the task very seriously. In return, they once tried to kill him with machine guns.

"When they saw me in the balcony, they opened fire," Ismael says.

Sadat always had General Ismael close by. The general believed he had arrested enough militants to protect the presidency. But he was wrong. On October 6, 1981, Sadat attended an anniversary ceremony for the Yom Kippur War. It was his last day of life.

"I was beside him," Ismael says. "Really, I was expecting by feeling, not in four months, but by feeling and analysing the situation, that this day would not pass. And that's why I warned him the day before that I'm worried and anxious about tomorrow."

In one of the most shocking events of their history, Egyptians saw their president assassinated on live TV. The killers had cleverly infiltrated the tight security. Sadat actually spoke to the lead gunman.

"When these guys began to open fire on him, he pushed away from him and stand speaking with the boy, 'Don't be mad. What are you doing? Don't be mad!'" Ismael recalls.

Sadat had tried to control the movement he had unleashed and it killed him.

"He supported all that thinking that he will by this gain their sympathy and full support," says former ambassador Hussein Amin. "And [he] couldn't make the genie go back into the bottle. Too big for him or for his regime."

Mass Arrests

In the days following Sadat's murder, the regime arrested hundreds of Islamists. During one of their court hearings, they tried to show foreign journalists evidence of their torture. But at this particular session, something else happened. A once quiet surgeon stepped into the international spotlight for his first appearance.

"We are free. The real Islamic front against Zionism, communism and imperialism," Ayman al-Zawahri yelled at the court from his cell.

Ayman al-Zawahri emerged as a leader. He'd already spent 14 months in an Egyptian prison by this point and the effect on him was obvious. But Ayman al-Zawahri spoke English. He was well educated and he knew how to get attention.

"They hanged us over the edge of the doors with our hands tied at the back. There they arrested the wives, the mothers, the fathers, the sisters and the sons in a trial to put the psychological pressure over these innocent prisoners," al-Zawahri told a reporter.

Al Zayat says al-Zawahri had only a small role in the assassination of Anwar Sadat. "His role was a minor one. He only supplied the group with weapons. His importance was clear when security discovered his relationship with a group within the army."

When the police discovered al-Zawahri might know military people in the movement, General Ismael became very interested. The general interrogated al-Zawahri in person.

"I met him," Ismael says. "That was the first time. It was really calm and very shameful. He speak to me and his eyes down, not vulgar. He's well bred. I said to him, Ayman, you are a man of good family and I don't imagine why you put yourself in this situation with the people like that. You are well bred, have a good situation, a doctor, respected man, respected family. Why you put yourself with some people like that in a legal situation and legal operations against your country? Why you do it? He don't answer."

Al-Zawahri later talked a lot about how people were being tortured inside the jail. Ismael denied that. "He always say that to stop their confessions in front of the court, to say that means that I said that because I was under pressure, something like that," Ismael says.

"We have up here many cases of permanent disabilities as you are seeing," al-Zawahri told a reporter at the time.

"He was tortured in prison," Amin says. "As a matter of fact, he was so much tortured that the authorities would bring in suspects and show them Ayman al-Zawahri and say this is what will happen to you if you don't confess or tell on others, etcetera. His attachment to Islam becomes greater. His dislike for people who thought all government or he thought behind the present Egyptian regime. This kind of hatred would grow. And he would swear or resolve on revenge."

Afghanistan

After he was released from prison, al-Zawahri left Egypt and eventually went to Afghanistan. The Afghan war was the Woodstock of Islamic freedom fighters. Thousands of Arab men found their calling there. Al-Zawahri was a warrior and a doctor. His family was proud of him.

"I have to thank God that someone of our family has left the luxury life," his uncle Mafous says. "He leaves the treasure they all want, that people are running after, to live in a place like Afghanistan, to help and treat people, poor people in need of him."

Al-Zawahri also made a very important friend. Osama bin Laden had come to build roads. After the war, the two men were mature, seasoned fighters, no longer young radicals. They focused their rage on America. Al-Zawahri merged his al Jihad organization with bin Laden's. They jointly announced the world Islamic front against Crusaders and Jews. Al-Zawahri provided experience. Bin Laden had the money. They formed a perfect partnership of hate.

"I believe that Ayman al-Zawahri is the brains of bin Laden, he is the brains. Ayman al-Zawahri may not be a great spokesman, but he is a great planner. He can affect the people around him very much," al Zayat says.

"They can teach themselves [about terrorism] Osama teach him and Ayman teach him. They complete their information, their knowledge, complete each other," Ismael says.

That completion saw its most spectacular achievement on Sept. 11, 2001.

Public meetings are against the law in Egypt. President Mubarak has kept a state of emergency for 20 years. The Labour party is a cover for the Muslim Brotherhood, which is now muted but still outlawed. Repressing politics just makes descent more rabid.

"All the people wants that to free the Holy Land in Palestine and Egypt and Jerusalem. We don't know what Jerusalem did to us. We don't know what it is. It is a sacred place to us. We have to fight and even to kill the Jews," Mafous says. "We don't accept to kill any Americans or anyone in the world who is, who doesn't make any crime against us." But he adds, if Americans do make crimes against Islam, "I have to kill them."

Converts to militancy

This poisonous atmosphere now spreading through the Middle East infects more converts to militancy every day. There's little else for young people here with no future and a lot of resentments. But General Ismael says the regime bears no responsibility for creating Ayman or any other militant.

"No. The regime, does the regime told him to leave your job as a doctor and good family and to go to join these people and to plan for destroying and the killing?" Ismael asks. "Does the regime do this? Does you think that peace process that Sadat has done deserve that these people do that? I imagine that any people, right people have, would mind, don't like peace? Do you think that?"

"The only remedy to their fanaticism is to try to deal with their, with their economic and social problems. And a political problems, too, to give them more freedom to air their complaints and grievances," Amin says.

A doctor and a poet turns into a cold-hearted killer. Al-Zawahri's life experiences now common, Mubarak's police have arrested tens of thousands of Islamists since al-Zawahri left. Many have fled to the desert.

"If they, Ayman al-Zawahri and Osama bin Laden, die under these circumstances, there are hundreds present and hundreds will continue to have hatred for Americans and the West. They will try to do all they can to destroy their interests and destroy their power," al Zayat says.

Ayman al-Zawahri is a product of his time and place and so are his disciples.

"We are continuing our jihad until the victory over Islam and we are calling the whole people in the whole world. Where is democracy? Where is freedom? Where are human rights? Where is justice? We will never forget. We will never forget," al-Zawahri once said.

Al-Zawahri was indicted by the United States for his alleged role in planning the bombing of the U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998. After the September 11 attacks, the U.S. offered a $25-million reward for his capture.

It is believed that al-Zawahri fled into the mountains of Afghanistan soon after the attacks. It is believed that his wife and three daughters were killed during the U.S. bombing campaign that followed. There are reports that he subsequently married the two widows of a senior al-Qaeda leader who was killed in Afghanistan.

He appeared on a videotape, along with Osama bin Laden, broadcast on al-Jazeera in September 2003, showing both men walking through the mountains and sitting down beside a stream.


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1/20/2006 7:48 pm

INDEPTH: OSAMA BIN LADEN
What's the evidence against bin Laden?


CBC News Online | March 5, 2004

Although countries around the world rallied to the side of the U.S. after the terrorist attacks on September 11, many–especially those in the Islamic world–have urged the American government to show the public some concrete proof that Osama bin Laden is indeed the culprit to be hunted down.

In early October, the U.S. government began releasing evidence gathered about the terrorist attacks to a select number of people, including NATO allies, Allied leaders in Europe, Pakistani President General Pervez Musharraf and certain Afghan Northern Alliance rebel leaders.

NATO Secretary General Lord Robertson said the U.S. offered “clear and compelling evidence,” while Pakistani Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammed Riaz Khan said the report included "sufficient grounds for indictment in terms of the material we have seen and we have studied."

What evidence has been released that links bin Laden to the attacks?

The following are a few major points that have been released:

Since 1989, Osama bin Laden has conducted substantial financial and business transactions on behalf of Al Qaeda and in pursuit of its goals. These include purchasing land for training camps, purchasing warehouses for the storage of items, including explosives, purchasing communications and electronics equipment, and transporting currency and weapons to members of Al Qaeda and associated terrorist groups in countries throughout the world.
Since 1989, Osama bin Laden has established a series of businesses to provide income for Al Qaeda, to provide cover for the procurement of explosives, weapons and chemicals, and for the travel of Al Qaeda operatives.
Nineteen men have been identified as the hijackers from the passenger lists of the four planes hijacked on September 11, 2001. At least three of them have already been positively identified as associates of Al Qaeda. One has been identified as playing key roles in both the East African embassy attacks and the USS Cole attack.
In August and early September, close associates of bin Laden were warned to return to Afghanistan from other parts of the world by September 10.
Since September 11, we have learned that one of bin Laden’s closest and most senior associates was responsible for the detailed planning of the attacks (the names of associates, though known, are not given).
Bin Laden remains in charge, and the mastermind, of Al Qaeda. In Al Qaeda, an operation on the scale of the September 11 attacks would have been approved by Osama bin Laden himself.

A Bush administration source said that the report also contains telephone and bank records that lead to Al Qaeda members, as well as direct links between the September 11 attacks, last year’s attack on the USS Cole in Yemen and the bombings of the two U.S. embassies.

Where can I see that evidence?

On October 4, the office of British Prime Minister Tony Blair released this information to the general public on its Web site: www.pm.gov.uk

Should I believe it?

If you have been following the bin Laden coverage, there will likely be very little in the released report that will shock or completely surprise you. Many of the facts released were reported or speculated on in local and international media.

No one can tell you what to believe, but you must keep in mind that the information released is only a carefully selected portion of the investigation. A large chunk of the information appears to be based on the previous cases mounted against bin Laden (regarding the bombing of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania).

Why won't Blair and Bush just tell us everything they know?

Understandably, the report given to the public cannot reveal all the evidence uncovered.

"There is other intelligence we cannot disclose of an even more direct nature indicating guilt," Blair told Parliament. This suggests that some of the information may have been obtained by intelligence sources whose current location or position could be compromised by public exposure.

What has Canada been told officially?

Prime Minister Chrétien has shared in the same information as the other world leaders, saying he was “quite satisfied” the information proves bin Laden’s involvement in the terrorist attacks.


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1/22/2006 4:53 pm

Musharraf Confirms Al Qaeda Death Sunday, December 04, 2005

PESHAWAR, Pakistan – One of Al Qaeda's top five leaders, said to be responsible for planning overseas strikes, was killed by Pakistani security forces in a rocket attack near the Afghan border with U.S. help, American and Pakistani officials said Saturday.

Hamza Rabia, a key associate of Al Qaeda No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri, died Thursday in an explosion in the North Waziristan tribal area, and his remains were identified in DNA tests, Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed said.

Two U.S. counterterrorism officials, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because of the information's sensitivity, confirmed Rabia's death but would not elaborate on the circumstances.

The officials said Rabia was believed to be an Egyptian and head of Al Qaeda's foreign operations, possibly as senior as the No. 3 official in the terrorist group. That would put him in a tier just below Usama bin Laden and al-Zawahri.

"He was Al Qaeda's No. 5 and this is what we know," Ahmed told The Associated Press.

Rabia filled the vacuum created this year by the capture of the previous operations chief, Abu Faraj al-Libbi, the two U.S. officials said.


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1/22/2006 4:55 pm

Spain Nabs 10 Suspected of Aiding Al Qaeda
Wednesday, November 23, 2005

MADRID, Spain – Police on Wednesday arrested 10 people suspected of financing and providing logistical support to an Islamic extremist group linked to the Al Qaeda terror network, Spain's interior minister said.

The suspects were detained in and around three Spanish cities – Alicante, Murcia and Granada – and heavily armed police seized computer equipment, drugs and $41,200 in cash during the morning raids, officials said.

"The detained were part of a cell that gave logistical support and finance to the Salafist Group for Call and Combat," Interior Minister Jose Antonio Alonso said at a news conference. The Algerian-based group, also known as GSPC, has declared allegiance to Al Qaeda.

The suspects were accused of financing terrorist activities through petty crime, including drug trafficking and forged credit cards, Alonso said. He said the cell had connections with other European cells in Germany, France, Britain, Belgium and Denmark.

The interior minister, however, emphasized that the group was not planning an imminent attack. Last year's train bombings in Madrid that were blamed on Islamic militants linked to Al Qaeda killed 191 people and wounded some 1,500 in Spain's worst terrorist attack.


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1/22/2006 4:57 pm

Al Qaeda Chief of Saudi Arabia Killed in Clash Sunday, July 03, 2005

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia – In a swift and telling victory, Saudi anti-terror forces killed Al Qaeda's top leader in the key U.S. ally in a gunbattle Sunday, but experts warn the kingdom still faces a surge in attacks despite its two-year crackdown on militants.

The 90-minute battle in the eastern Rawdah district, an upscale neighborhood in the capital Riyadh (search), was the latest blow dealt to Usama bin Laden's group in Saudi Arabia, whose leaders have either been killed or captured since authorities launched an unrelenting offensive against it in 2003.

Moroccan Younis Mohammed Ibrahim al-Hayari (search) was killed in a dawn raid by security forces in an area where suspected militants were hiding, an Interior Ministry official was quoted by Saudi Press Agency as saying.

Three other suspected militants were arrested, a security official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. He said the three men were on a recently issued list of 36 most-wanted terrorists.

SPA, quoting an unidentified official, reported that al-Hayari headed Al Qaeda (search) in the kingdom.

"He [al-Hayari] was nominated by his peers, and following the death of those preceding him, to be the head of sedition and corruption in the land," the official said in the SPA report.


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1/22/2006 5:00 pm

Al Qaeda in Iraq to Recruit Locals for Attacks


CAIRO, Egypt – Iraq's most feared terror group said Tuesday that it has formed a unit of potential suicide attackers who are exclusively Iraqis, an apparent bid to deflect criticism that most bombers in Iraq are foreigners.

Al Qaeda in Iraq (search) announced the unit in an Internet posting signed by Abu Maysara al-Iraqi, the group's purported spokesman. The statement could not be authenticated, but it appeared on an Islamic Web site known for carrying messages from militant groups.

"In response to God's decree, and the heavy insistence of the (Iraqi) brothers and their longing for paradise, the Ansar platoon from the land of Iraq has been formed," the posting said.

"Dozens hurried to register their names to meet their God," the posting said. It told of one Iraqi youth who had rebuked his leader for failing to give him a suicide assignment, telling him he would complain to God on the Day of Judgment because "you prevented me from meeting my God."

The U.S. military has said foreign fighters are a small percentage – perhaps one in 10 – of the insurgents fighting the U.S. presence in Iraq. They do a disproportionate amount of killing, however, in part because they are more likely to carry out suicide bombings.


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1/22/2006 5:02 pm

Dayman

thank you for your note ... especially when blue ... really sorry that your appointment didnt work well ... will look forward to hearing later
meant it that feeling your presence is special
J.


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1/22/2006 5:04 pm

Pakistan: Four Foreign Terrorists Killed in U.S. Airstrike Tuesday, January 17, 2006

PESHAWAR, Pakistan – At least four foreign terrorists died in the purported U.S. airstrike aimed at Al Qaeda's No. 2 leader in a Pakistani border village, the provincial government said Tuesday.

A statement, issued by the administration of Pakistan's semiautonomous tribal regions bordering Afghanistan, also said that between 10 and 12 foreign extremists had been invited to the dinner at the village hit in Friday's attack.

It was the first official confirmation by Pakistani authorities that foreign militants were killed in the attack on the village of Damadola. Women and children also died, triggering outrage in this Islamic nation.

The statement did not identify who the foreigners may have been or who was the target of the missile strike.

Pakistani intelligence officials have said Ayman al-Zawahiri, Usama bin Laden's top lieutenant, had been invited to a dinner in the targeted village of Damadola to mark an Islamic holiday but did not show up and sent some aides instead.

There have been conflicting accounts from Pakistani officials and witnesses over who, if anyone, reclaimed bodies from the scene of the missile strike.


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1/22/2006 5:06 pm

White House to Pursue Al Qaeda
Tuesday,
January 17, 2006
The Bush administration called Pakistan a valued ally in the war on terror Tuesday and pledged to continue pursuing Al Qaeda leaders like those targeted in an airstrike.

"Al Qaeda continues to seek to do harm to the American people," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said. "There are leaders that we continue to pursue and we will bring them to justice. The American people expect us to do so and that's what this president is committed to doing."

McClellan refused to discuss an attack Friday in the Pakistani village of Damadola in the tribal region bordering Afghanistan. Pakistani intelligence officials have said Ayman Al-Zawahiri, Usama bin Laden's top lieutenant, had been invited to a dinner to mark an Islamic holiday but did not show up and sent some aides instead.

The provincial government said at least four foreign terrorists were killed, along with 18 local people.

Asked if the United States would express regret if innocent civilians had been killed, McClellan said, "I think you've heard our comments about matters of that nature in the past. If I have anything additional to add, I will."


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1/22/2006 5:08 pm

Death of Four Leaders a Blow to Al Qaeda
Thursday, January 19, 2006

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan – One is believed to be a chemical weapons expert, another allegedly plotted assassinations. A third planned attacks targeting U.S. troops, while a son-in-law publicized their exploits in the name of Al Qaeda and recruited new militants.

Now this top group is believed to have been wiped out by a U.S. missile strike. If true, it's far from a death blow to Al Qaeda, but analysts say it could weaken the terror group's operations in Afghanistan, which has seen an alarming rise in homicide attacks.

The strike apparently missed Al Qaeda's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri. And an audiotape aired Thursday, the first public communication from Usama bin Laden in over a year, suggests the terror network's figureheads are alive.

But the possible demise of four top lieutenants reported by Pakistani officials would rob Al Qaeda of people holding the reins to daily operations.

"It's a very significant blow to Al Qaeda," said Rohan Gunaratna, a terrorism expert at the Institute of Defense and Strategic Studies in Singapore. "These are very experienced leaders and to replace them in the short term will be very difficult."

The Jan. 13 attack on an Islamic holiday gathering in Damadola killed 13 villagers in the Pakistani hamlet near the Afghan border, and possibly four or five


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1/22/2006 5:09 pm

Usama Bin Laden Audiotape Surfaces Thursday, January 19, 2006

CAIRO – Al Qaeda is preparing for attacks in the United States but the terror group is offering a conditional truce to help rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan, Usama bin Laden said in excerpts of an audiotape aired Thursday on Al-Jazeera.

The CIA later said the tape is authentic, but the FBI was not so sure.

"Following technical analysis of the Usama bin Laden tape aired today, the CIA assesses that it was the voice of Usama bin Laden," said the agency official, who provided no details about how that conclusion was made.

FBI spokesman John Miller, however, said it's not 100 percent certain bin Laden is even alive. The United States has placed a $25 million bounty on the terror leader's head.

"The tape's being analyzed right now – not just by the FBI but our partners in the intel community – one, to gauge its authenticity, though to date there hasn't been a false bin Laden tape that's come out, and second, to analyze its content and message," he said.

No matter what bin Laden may be offering, however, White House officials said the United States will remain firm in its fight against terror.


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1/22/2006 5:11 pm

Death of Four Leaders a Blow to Al Qaeda
Thursday, January 19, 2006

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan – One is believed to be a chemical weapons expert, another allegedly plotted assassinations. A third planned attacks targeting U.S. troops, while a son-in-law publicized their exploits in the name of Al Qaeda and recruited new militants.

Now this top group is believed to have been wiped out by a U.S. missile strike. If true, it's far from a death blow to Al Qaeda, but analysts say it could weaken the terror group's operations in Afghanistan, which has seen an alarming rise in homicide attacks.

The strike apparently missed Al Qaeda's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri. And an audiotape aired Thursday, the first public communication from Usama bin Laden in over a year, suggests the terror network's figureheads are alive.

But the possible demise of four top lieutenants reported by Pakistani officials would rob Al Qaeda of people holding the reins to daily operations.

"It's a very significant blow to Al Qaeda," said Rohan Gunaratna, a terrorism expert at the Institute of Defense and Strategic Studies in Singapore. "These are very experienced leaders and to replace them in the short term will be very difficult."

The Jan. 13 attack on an Islamic holiday gathering in Damadola killed 13 villagers in the Pakistani hamlet near the Afghan border, and possibly four or five foreign militants whose bodies were reportedly spirited away by sympathizers.


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1/22/2006 5:14 pm

Fast Facts: Major Al-Qaeda Attacks
Thursday, January 19, 2006

Recent major attacks outside Iraq claimed by or linked to the Al Qaeda terror network:

– July 23, 2005: Bombings in the Egyptian resort at Sharm el-Sheik kill at least 64 people, including 17 foreigners, according to the Egyptian Health Ministry. Local hospitals put the death toll at 88, with at least 119 wounded.

– July 7, 2005: Four suicide bombers blow themselves up on London subways and a bus, killing 52 people.

– Oct. 7, 2004: Three suicide car bombings targeting the Eqyptian resorts at Taba and Ras Shitan kill 34 people, including 11 Israelis.

– March 11, 2004: An attack on four commuter trains in Madrid, Spain, kills 191 people and wounds more than 1,600.

– November 2003: On Nov. 15, car bombs explode outside two synagogues in Istanbul, Turkey, killing 23 people plus the two bombers. Five days later, trucks packed with explosives detonate at a London-based bank and the British consulate in Istanbul


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1/22/2006 5:18 pm

Intel Doesn't Indicate Attacks Thursday, January 19, 2006

WASHINGTON – U.S. counterterror officials said Thursday they have seen no specific or credible intelligence to indicate an upcoming Al Qaeda attack on the country, despite a new audio tape reporting preparations for such a mission.

While warning against downplaying the taped threat, purportedly from Usama bin Laden, officials at intelligence and law enforcement agencies said there also has been no recent increase in "chatter" that can indicate that such an attack is imminent.

Intelligence officials were trying to determine the authenticity of the tape, released by the television network Al-Jazeera Thursday morning. That process that could take between several hours or several days – and perhaps through the weekend.

Intelligence authorities were examining why bin Laden – if in fact the voice on the tape is verified as his – would be speaking out after more than a year of letting his top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, serve as Al Qaeda's public face in statements and other communications.

"It isn't clear at this point what it means," said one counterterror official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the tape. However, "one would think it might be an effort to demonstrate both to Al Qaeda rank-and-file and the public at large that that he's still around, given that he hasn't been heard from in such a long time."


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1/22/2006 5:23 pm

Usama Bin Laden Audiotape Surfaces Thursday, January 19, 2006

Al Qaeda is preparing for attacks in the United States but the terror group is offering a conditional truce to help rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan, Usama bin Laden said in excerpts of an audiotape aired Thursday on Al-Jazeera.

The CIA later said the tape is authentic, but the FBI was not so sure.

"Following technical analysis of the Usama bin Laden tape aired today, the CIA assesses that it was the voice of Usama bin Laden," said the agency official, who provided no details about how that conclusion was made.

FBI spokesman John Miller, however, said it's not 100 percent certain bin Laden is even alive. The United States has placed a $25 million bounty on the terror leader's head.

"The tape's being analyzed right now – not just by the FBI but our partners in the intel community – one, to gauge its authenticity, though to date there hasn't been a false bin Laden tape that's come out, and second, to analyze its content and message," he said.

No matter what bin Laden may be offering, however, White House officials said the United States will remain firm in its fight against terror.


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1/22/2006 5:25 pm

Islamic Jihad Claims Suicide Bombing at Tel Aviv Bus Station Thursday, January 19, 2006

TEL AVIV, Israel – A Palestinian suicide bomber blew himself up at a Tel Aviv fast-food stand Thursday, wounding 20 people in an apparent attempt to destabilize the region just a week before the Palestinian parliamentary elections.

The militant Islamic Jihad group claimed responsibility in a telephone call to The Associated Press. The group has been responsible for all six suicide bombings in Israel in the past year, and is the only faction boycotting the Jan. 25 vote.

The bomber, who witnesses said pretended to be a peddler selling disposable razors, walked into "The Mayor's Shwarma" in a crowded pedestrian mall near the old central bus station. Most of the customers were sitting at sidewalk tables, rather than indoors, because of the sunny weather.

Yehiel Ohana, who works in a nearby store, said the bomber wore a black coat and black stocking cap aroused his suspicions because of his unsteady gait.

"The guy was standing at the corner of the street, looking like he was waiting for someone," Ohana said. "He swayed strangely. Then he went into the shwarma stand, and two to three seconds later, we heard the explosion. Everything shuddered. We entered the shwarma stand, and we saw him lying on the floor, and then we understood he was a suicide bomber."


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1/24/2006 3:35 pm

Arab Propaganda and the New York Times
By Sharon Lapkin
January 24, 2006

The New York Times published a photograph of a young Pakistani boy recently standing with an old man next to an ancient, unfired artillery shell. It placed a caption under it that read: “Pakistani men with the remains of a missile fired at a house in the Bajur tribal zone near the Afghan border.”

A short time later, the newspaper changed the caption to: “Correction: A picture caption on Saturday with an article about a U.S. airstrike on a village in Pakistan misidentified an unexploded ordinance. It was not the remains of a missile fired at a house.”

The photograph ‒ it appears ‒ was a fake. A propaganda stunt set up by the Pakastanis to fool the Western media. It worked.

And, when Danish Muslim leaders recently toured the Islamic world with a 43-page report protesting 12 cartoons published by the newspaper Iyllands-Posten last October, they inserted an extra three into the Report for good measure. The Brussells Journal reported that the extra cartoons depicted Mohamed as a pedophile and a pigsnout, with a third, portraying a praying Muslim being by a dog.

Akhmad Akkari, spokesperson for the Muslim organizations involved in the tour, told The Brussels Journal that the three extra cartoons had been added to “give an insight in how hateful the atmosphere in Denmark is towards Muslims.” The truth ‒ it appears ‒ was considered insufficient by the 21 Danish Muslim organizations protesting the publication of pictures of their prophet, Mohamed.

The propensity to manufacture propaganda in the Arab world is traditionally accepted as a method to safeguard honor and status and to avoid shame. It is not, as David Pryce-Jones explained in The Closed Circle: An Interpretation of the Arabs, a matter of morality or malice. “If honor so demands, “ he said, “lies and cheating may become absolute imperatives.” In fact, exploiting every possibility for converting shame to honor is considered a noble skill. Shia practice recognizes this predicament and permits taqyia, or “precautionary dissimulation” where Muslims can lie and cheat with religious sanctity.

Back in 2002, Palestinian media reported that Israel had committed the “massacre of the 21st century.” The refugee camp in Jenin, it claimed, was the burial ground of “hundreds of martyrs.” The Weekly Standard reported that Palestinian UN representative, Nasser al-Kidwa told CNN:

There's almost a massacre now taking place in Jenin. Helicopter gun ships are throwing missiles at one square kilometer packed with almost 15,000 people in a refugee camp. . . .Just look at the TV and watch, watch what the--what the Israel forces are doing. . . This is a war crime, clear war crime, witnessed by the whole world, preventing ambulances, preventing people from being buried. I mean this is an all-out assault against the whole population.

After the United Nations called emergency meetings and the world’s press published first-hand accounts of Israeli atrocities – they reluctantly discovered that the whole thing was an elaborate hoax. Arafat had called for “a million martyrs to march to Jerusalem” and inventing a massacre had provided a world stage for his propaganda machine. But, truth was the real massacre as the West climbed upon Arafat’s stage and danced his mountebank waltz.

When the Hollywood Foreign Press Association celebrated the morally repugnant subject of suicide bombing and rewarded its adaptation to a Hollywood template by presenting Paradise Now with a Golden Globe, the truth was in jeopardy again. Studded with historical inaccuracies and romanticized terrorists, the film attempts to normalize everyday mass murder by portraying murderers as misunderstood victims who kill innocents to create justice
The film’s producers couldn’t have known when they inserted historical inaccuracies into the script that the Hollywood entertainment industry would grant them “precautionary dissimulation” and then put gold in their pockets to reward them for their dishonesty.

And when the wannabe suicide bomber, Khaled, announced in the film that “the Palestinians have exhausted every political means” to achieving “a two-state solution”, the Hollywood Foreign Press Association forgot about 1937, 1947, 1967 and 2001, when the Jews accepted the partition of Palestine/Israel, but the Arabs rejected a two-state compromise. They chose instead, to adhere to the film’s representation where their newfound favourite actors could safely remain victims.

Hollywood gave Golden Globe winner, Hany Abu-Assad, the world stage and several million people to listen to his claim that the award was “a recognition that the Palestinians deserve their liberty and equality unconditionally.” They didn’t ask him why they’d already knocked it back four times and Hollywood didn’t appear concerned with the real historical details.

So, while it is clear that Arabs exercise taqyia to promote honor and prestige, it is unclear why the West is continually drawn into this charade. Recognizing trickery and deciphering propaganda have become essential modern day skills in the interpretation of Arab behaviour. David Pryce-Jones noted that for Arabs “Information control, which may or may not include lying, is the only effective strategy for arbitrating between honor and shame...”


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/25/2006 4:18 pm

Video Shows British MP Met With Hussein's Son

Wednesday, January 25, 2006
Video footage has emerged showing George Galloway shaking hands with Saddam Hussein's son Uday Hussein – an alleged , torturer and convicted murderer.

The video, obtained by The Sun, shows the Respect MP having a 20-minute meeting with Saddam's eldest son in an Iraqi palace in 1999.

In the video, Galloway is seen to greet Uday, shaking his hand twice and calling him "Excellency."

He jokes about losing weight, going bald and failing to give up smoking cigars.

Galloway also orders watching journalists not to publish parts of their conversation.

Finally, according to the paper, he taunts the U.S. and vows to stick with Uday "until the end".

The video was shot for an Iraqi TV station and was smuggled out of Iraq before the regime fell.

Uday beat and stabbed to death his father's personal valet and food taster, Kemal Hana Gegeo, and was briefly imprisoned by Saddam.He also numerous women, and his victims are believed to have included a visiting Russian ballerina.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/25/2006 7:30 pm

Bush Touts Surveillance Program at NSA Headquarters
Wednesday, January 25, 2006

WASHINGTON – Noting that most of the successes at the National Security Agency are never acknowledged, President Bush Wednesday tried to boost morale of the agency's employees, many of which are carrying out his controversial electronic eavesdropping program.

Behind closed doors with employees of the super-secretive agency, which traditionally conducts only overseas surveillance, Bush said the NSA's work is vital to protecting the homeland and to ongoing operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.

He later told the press that he would continue with the program so long as a terrorist threat existed.

"Listen to the words of Usama bin Laden and take them seriously when he says he's going to hurt the American people again, or try to, he means it," Bush told reporters. "I take it seriously and the people of NSA take it seriously and most of the American people take it seriously, as well."

After Sept. 11, 2001, Bush authorized the NSA to conduct some surveillance without warrants of people inside the United States. The wiretaps are only used when someone inside this country is one of the people taking part in an overseas communication with a suspected link to Al Qaeda.

While critics call it a domestic spying program, the White House calls it a "terrorist surveillance program." After receiving harsh criticism from civil liberties groups and Democrats when news of the program was leaked by The New York Times, defending the program is a top priority of the Bush administration.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/25/2006 7:35 pm

Bush: We're Staying on the Offense

Tuesday, January 24, 2006

WASHINGTON – President Bush on Monday went on the offensive in making his case for continuing the hard fight in the War on Terror and using every tool available to protect the American people.

In defending his decision to invade Iraq and take the fight to the enemy, Bush also made his case for allowing the National Security Agency to listen in on phone or e-mail conversations of people inside the United States with known Al Qaeda terrorists. Bush has argued both the necessity and constitutionality of the controversial program, which he calls a "terrorist surveillance program," particularly in a time of war.

"If [terrorists] are making a call to the United States, we need to know why, to protect you," Bush said, adding that despite criticism of the program saying otherwise, he did consult with many lawyers and some members of Congress before authorizing the eavesdropping program.

"It's amazing when people say to me, 'Well, he's just breaking the law.' If I wanted to break the law, why was I briefing Congress?" Bush said. "Federal courts have consistently ruled that a president has authority under the Constitution to conduct foreign intelligence surveillance against our enemies. Predecessors of mine have used that same constitutional authority."


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/25/2006 7:37 pm

NOTE: Unless stated otherwise, text is from the AP (Associated Press)


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/25/2006 7:40 pm

NSA Surveillance Legality Debate Narrows

Wednesday, January 25, 2006

WASHINGTON – After three days of a Bush administration offensive and weeks of debate and accusations, some legal experts are coming to terms on what is illegal and what is not in the National Security Agency electronic surveillance program.

"When the president goes around and speaks ... and says we're monitoring calls from overseas from Al Qaeda to the United States, the NSA can go ahead and do that now under the law," Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., said after the Senate Judiciary confirmation hearing of Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito.

But Kennedy said independent organizations, like the Congressional Research Service, have studied the legality of the NSA program and say the president has gone beyond what the rules allow. Bush, however, says the eavesdropping program is legal and doesn't overstep the boundaries allowed to him by the Constitution and congressional resolution.

"These tools include surveillance to protect and prevent further attacks by our enemies," Bush said Wednesday after visiting the NSA to give a morale boost to workers there. "I have the authorization both from the Constitution and the Congress to undertake this vital program. The American people expect me to protect our lives and our civil liberties and that's exactly what we're doing with this program."


dayman7 57M

1/27/2006 12:07 pm

I am sorry to say that the election of Hamas by the Palestinians has for all intents and purposes has ended any hope for peace in the middle east. It deeply saddens to realize that we will probably see a return to the terrorist acts of the Arafat era. As the Palestinians celibrate, firing their guns in the streets, all those who were given hope by the leadership of Ariel Sharon shed a tear for what has been lost.

Also I would like say that I would not be too concerned about a picture of a British M.P. shaking hands with one of Husseins sons, remember that when Bush was gov. of Texas the Taliban were his honoured guests for a state visit.
dayman


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/27/2006 10:02 pm

dayman .... yes, lots of tears for them ... for all that was lost .... seems even Shiron couldnt have changed things after all ... so sad, the legacy of yasser.

Good to see ya nack guy ... u r soooo well cum here
J.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/27/2006 10:24 pm

oops .. missed 2nd point there dayman

yes, partially why i didnt comment on it .. merely posted as info

However, now u got me thinkin a bit .... not disputin at all .. but let me add ...

1. not to justify, but to qualify ... allies in cold war era and post cold war does qualify the bush fact some .. and dumb us didnt know a lot abt what they would be up to then... again, only a qualifier, not a justifier.

2. That MP did it , NOT because he didnt know they were an enemy , rather that particular one obviously did it (and many other similar things) BECAUSE they were an enemy.... just to be difficult ... and prove some strange point he has in his mind ...akla Bellefonte sorta style ... my take, for what its worth.

I am pretty nuetral on the current admin. ...cant think of many i see as a lot better ... not pro .. not anti .. and definitely not buyin into the huge Moore style propoganda on the subject ..... i take it issue bi issue ... and avoid the "anti" news types mainly .. and judge each issue on it's own merits .. at least i sure try to ... when i dont, i know u'll slap mu lil butt .. so i wont get too far outa line .. lol

"ILS has said cpl of times "hope dayman cums around to challenge your intellect and keep you sharp lil" ...

he, like you dayman is a wise fella. Pls keep challenging ... i so respect your attitude, and intellect,...and heart dayman.

Very Best Wishes for you
J.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/28/2006 9:27 am

my comment:

The old "the palestinians never miss an opportunity ...

to miss an opportunty"
(not my coinage)

once again cums true .......

so sad ... so damned sad .....yasser lives on.


dayman7 57M

1/28/2006 11:55 am

Lil,
You are so right about the legacy of Arafat still controling the palestinians, even Sharon would not be able to forge peace with Hamas.

My point about the Taliban had more to do with their hard line stance and the lack of rights and oppurtunities for women. You know what they say, hindsight is always 20/20.

Finally, I would love to slap your lil' butt and then kiss that sweet little cheek all better.
dayman


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
1/28/2006 8:47 pm

dayman ... re Taliban ... and very solid point ... they were at the top, or maybe bottom is better way to put it, on treatment of women ... was horrible .... along with anyone who didnt do things their way ... exceedingly cruel and strict thugs ... religion run amuck ... or maybe more accurate .. distorted for selfserving purposes.

lol ... im not a great "spankee" material .. however, if u made it light but we pretend it has to be kissed better ... i sure could play that game with you. hmmmmmmm .... let's see, what can i do to be bad ...... in sure ill find something ..lol

Grrrrreat to see you again
J.


ilsgicemru 72M
2822 posts
2/1/2006 7:37 pm

J. .................... You might . or might not . be interested in this post I ran across !!! ... [post 222089] ... Let me know if you comment there !!! ................ G


dayman7 57M

2/3/2006 10:37 am

Hi Lil,
I looked at the site mentioned in the above post. I thought it had little substance. When the towers were built a collision with an airplane was included in the design. The towers were built to withstand the impact of a 707 which was the largest airliner at the time of design. A 757 like the planes that hit the towers creates far more damage that a 707 on impact. The steel that supported the towers did not have to melt, but to bend to have catastrophic results. Actually the 2 towers fell for different reasons; the first one to fall did so due to a failure in the steel exoskelaton of the building. The steel in one corner was heated to point of bending by the heat from the fire. As soon as the steel sterted to bend the integrity of the structure was breached making it unable to support the weight of the floors above the impact. T.V. cameras showed one corner start to collapse before the rest of the structure came down. The second tower fell due to failure of the steel beams that supported the floors. The fire caused the beams to sag and finally collapse like a house of cards.
dayman


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
2/5/2006 3:53 pm

dayman

havnt had time to digest his post entirely ... but what u state is accurate .....right on in fact ... so many innacurate statements out there ... "conspiracy theories" abound and seem to attract some people IF they hear what they want to hear ...usually to support anti us feelings in themselves i think .. u really do study things ... but, i knew that long ago

you are sharp .. and accurate .... i noticed your other comment and will reply when i am in right thot plane .. it deserves a thoughtfull reply .. not a quickie comment .. and i thank u so much for it.
J.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
2/5/2006 6:34 pm

USS Cole Bombing Mastermind Escapes Prison
Sunday, February 05, 2006

LYON, France – A man considered a mastermind of the USS Cole bombing that killed 17 sailors in a Yemeni port in 2000 was among 23 people who escaped from a Yemen prison last week, Interpol said Sunday.

The international police agency issued an "urgent global security alert" for those who escaped Friday from the prison via a tunnel. It called the escapees "dangerous individuals."

A Yemen security official announced the escape of convicted Al Qaeda members Friday but did not provide details.

Interpol said in a statement that at least 13 of the 23 escapees were convicted Al Qaeda fighters who escaped via a 140-yard-long tunnel "dug by the prisoners and co-conspirators outside."

Yemeni officials confirmed to Interpol that a man considered a mastermind of the Cole attack, identified as Jamal al-Badawi, was among those who escaped.

Al-Badawi was among those sentenced to death in September 2004 for plotting the USS Cole attack. Two homicide bombers blew up an explosives-laden boat next to the destroyer as it refueled in the Yemeni port of Aden on Oct. 12, 2000.

Another of the 23 escapees was identified as Fawaz Yahya al-Rabeiee, considered by Interpol to be one of those responsible for a 2002 attack on the French tanker Limburg off Yemen's coast. That attack killed a Bulgarian crew member and spilled 90,000 barrels of oil into the Gulf of Aden.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
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2/5/2006 6:36 pm

continued from above
Interpol's urgent global security alert, known as an "orange notice," was issued by agency Secretary General Ronald Noble "because the escape and unknown whereabouts of Al Qaeda terrorists constituted a clear and present danger to all countries," the statement said.

Noble urged Yemen – the ancestral home of Usama bin Laden – to provide names, photographs, fingerprints and other information about the suspects.

A Yemen security official said on condition of anonymity Friday that the 23 escapees had fled a prison in the capital, San'a, that he described as a military intelligence detention center. The official said only that the escapees had all had been sentenced last year on terrorism-related charges.

The escape came a day before the expected start of a trial of 15 people charged with involvement in terror operations in Yemen, including Mohammed Hamdi al-Ahdal, who is suspected of masterminding the Cole bombing and the 2002 bombing of the Limburg.

The trial was postponed indefinitely.

Yemen was long a haven for Islamic militants. After the Sept. 11 attacks, the government sided with the U.S.-led war on terrorism.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
2/5/2006 6:38 pm

U.S. Navy Commissions Anti-Terror Squadron
from AP - Friday, from AP - February 03, 2006

IMPERIAL BEACH, Calif. – Six years after suicide bombers in an explosives-laden boat blew a hole in the USS Cole in Yemen, the Navy on Thursday commissioned its first active-duty unit with the job of thwarting a repeat of the attack that killed 17 sailors.

Naval Coastal Warfare Squadron Five will protect shipping lanes and U.S. forces overseas, defend harbors and provide port security with small, fast gunboats not seen since Vietnam. The squadron, expanding to 325 men and women, is expected to make its first deployment in 2007 to either Kuwait, South Korea or the Horn of Africa.

The squadron will deploy with a fleet of 18 aluminum-hulled boats equipped with machine guns and grenade launchers that can be loaded onto a C-17 transport plane and flown around the globe. In the water, they are capable of reaching speeds of more than 35 knots. Elements of the squadron can go ashore with a mobile sensor unit to provide surveillance of the operating area and relay communications.

Training scenarios include how to deal with a suicide bomber riding an explosive-laden Jet-Ski or in a fishing vessel, said Rear Adm. Donald K. Bullard, who oversees the squadron as head of a new Navy command for anti-terrorism and force protection.

On Oct. 12, 2000, two bombers rammed the Cole as it refueled in the southern Yemen port city of Aden. Besides the 17 killed, 37 American sailors were injured.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
2/6/2006 8:22 am

Moussaoui Kicks Off Jury Selection With Outburst
Monday, February 06, 2006

ALEXANDRIA, Va. – Proclaiming "I am Al Qaeda," Zacarias Moussaoui was escorted from a federal courtroom in Alexandria on Monday at the outset of jury selection in his terrorist conspiracy trial. As he was removed by federal marshals, he shouted, "This trial is a circus."

The acknowledged Al Qaeda conspirator, often a volatile figure in the courtroom, got almost immediately into an argument with U.S. District Judge Leonie M. Brinkema, demanding "I want to be heard" and saying of his lawyers, "These people do not represent me."

He left with his hands on his head, offering no resistance.

The outburst came as the first group of prospective jurors gathered to answer a questionnaire that will be used to help the judge and the lawyers select 12 jurors and six alternates. That's expected to take a month, setting the stage for the trial to begin March 6 on whether Moussaoui will be put to death or given life in prison.

Moussaoui is the only person charged in this country in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. He pleaded guilty to six conspiracy counts, admitting he came to the U.S. to join Al Qaeda attacks on buildings but denying specific knowledge of the Sept. 11 plot.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
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2/6/2006 8:23 am

continued
Prosecutors contend Moussaoui could have prevented the attacks, which killed nearly 3,000 people, by telling authorities about Al Qaeda's designs while he was in a Minnesota jail before Sept. 11. He had aroused suspicion while training to fly Boeing 747 jumbo jets.

When a jury is selected, jurors will be asked to decide first whether Moussaoui's acknowledged actions qualify him for the death penalty and then, if so, whether he deserves it. If either answer is no, he will get a life sentence with no chance of parole. Once a jury is picked, opening statements are set for March 6. The trial could last one to three months.

Moussaoui has vowed "to fight every inch against the death penalty."

Arguing for execution, prosecutors contend Moussaoui could have told investigators what he knew when arrested instead of lying about his intentions. The defense argues that Moussaoui knew less about 9/11 than the government, citing investigations that turned up multiple missed opportunities that might have headed off the attacks.

Prosecutors and defense lawyers wanted to ask potential jurors about their knowledge and attitude toward Islam. Brinkema allowed such questions in previous terrorism cases.

Prosecutors wanted to know whether potential jurors belonged to veterans groups, the American Civil Liberties Union or the National Rifle Association. Defense attorneys wanted to know their favorite TV shows and what bumper stickers are on their cars.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
2/6/2006 8:27 am

Official: Hamas Won't Recognize Israel
Monday, February 06, 2006

CAIRO, Egypt – A top Hamas official said the militant group will not recognize Israel but will abide, for now, by past agreements Palestinian leaders made with the Jewish state. He also lashed out at the more moderate Fatah party for refusing to participate in a national unity Palestinian government.

The comments by Moussa Abu Marzouk, the right-hand man to Hamas' political leader Khaled Mashaal, came as Hamas leaders from Syria and Palestinian areas gathered here and began talks Monday with Egyptian officials after the group's stunning election victory.

In a statement, Abu Marzouk blamed the Fatah movement for refusing to participate in a national unity government, which Hamas wants to form to avoid an Israeli veto on it.

"We will act in the legal framework to get out from this deadlock, which our brothers in Fatah have put us in," Abu Marzouk told reporters late Sunday.

Abu Marzouk said any government set up by Hamas "will not make security arrangements with Israeli or hand over (Palestinians) who fire rockets (on Israel)." He also insisted the group would not recognize Israel.

Hamas is under growing international pressure to renounce violence and recognize Israel's right to exist as a condition for receiving millions of dollars in foreign aid – the lifeline of the Palestinian economy. Western powers have said they will not fund a Hamas-led Palestinian government otherwise.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
2/6/2006 8:34 am

Gonzales Defends NSA Wiretaps
Monday, February 06, 2006

WASHINGTON – Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on Monday was facing some tough questions from the Senate Judiciary Committee over the president's terrorism surveillance program but argued that it "may make the difference between success and failure" in stopping the next terrorist attack.

"As the president has said, if you're talking to Al Qaeda, we want to know it," Gonzales testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Democrats, meanwhile, are accusing the administration of depriving Congress of information about the program. And Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., has called Gonzales' legal explanations to date "strained and unrealistic."

"The terrorist threat to America's security remains very real, we should have the tools necessary to protect America's security," Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy said, adding that's why Congress passed the USA Patriot Act and why the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which outlined the use of wiretaps, has been amended five times since Sept. 11.

"You cannot violate the laws or the rights of ordinary Americas … in America, our America, nobody is above the law, not even the president of the United States," Leahy added. "I think you are violating expressed provisions of the [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance] Act."


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
2/6/2006 8:36 am

continued - the Leak
Gonzales argued that the program that has come under fire since the New York Times published details of it late last year is legal, despite critics' claims otherwise. He said federal appeals courts have ruled that warrantless wiretaps are legal under the Fourth Amendment when authorized by the president on similar matters.

The NSA program is "well within the mainstream" of what previous courts have allowed, Gonzales said.

"Our enemy is listening and I can't help but think they're shaking their heads in amazement" that details of the secret program were leaked in the first place, he continued, and that people would actually be calling for disarmament of a program that has helped thwart attacks on U.S. soil.

He reiterated the administration's stance that the president has the legal authority to authorize the National Security Agency to conduct some wiretaps on people inside the United States for two reasons: the Constitution allows it, as does Congress' post-Sept. 11 resolution authorizing the president to use all necessary and appropriate force in combating Al Qaeda.

Under the program, the secret NSA – which traditionally conducts domestic surveillance overseas – is allowed to wiretap some individuals inside the United States if they are suspected of communicating with someone linked to Al Qaeda or other terror groups abroad. The administration maintains that the program does not allow for monitoring of domestic calls where both parties to the communication are located within the United States.

On Monday, the committee chairman and ranking member were allowed 10 minutes each for their opening statements; Gonzales had 20 minutes for his statement. Each committee member will then get 10 minutes to question the witness. The hearing is expected to last all day.

The hearing began with a squabble between Specter and some Democrats about whether Gonzales should be sworn in. Specter said it was unnecessary, saying he has "examined all the facts" and law and "it is my judgment that it is unnecessary to swear the witness." He also said Gonzales didn't mind if he was sworn in but that it is up to the chairman to decide. Democrats then demanded a vote; Republicans won the vote but Feingold then demanded to see the proxy votes of Republican senators not present, who Specter said would support his position.

Leahy, the panel's ranking Democrat, as well as Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., and others argued that Gonzales should be sworn in, since some of the questions he will be asked will be regarding statements he made under oath during his confirmation hearings.

"This is really not a very good way to begin this hearing but I've found that patience is a good practice here," Specter said.

"I'm very disappointed that we went through this process," added Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
2/6/2006 8:37 am

Gonzales: Surveillance Program 'Indispensable'

In a statement prepared for the hearing, Gonzales called the monitoring program "reasonable" and "lawful," particularly at a time when there is no end in sight to Al Qaeda's threats to the United States and its allies.

"Al Qaeda's leaders have repeatedly made good on their threats, and al Qaeda has demonstrated its ability to insert foreign agents into the United States to execute attacks," Gonzales said. "In confronting this new and deadly enemy, President Bush promised that '[w]e will direct every resource at our command-every means of diplomacy, every tool of intelligence, every tool of law enforcement, every financial influence, and every weapon of war-to the disruption of and to the defeat of the global terror network.' ...The terrorist surveillance program described by the president is one such tool and one indispensable aspect of this defense of our nation."

Gonzales lashed out at the news media for stories he called often "misinformed, confused or wrong."

"As the president has explained, the terrorist surveillance program operated by the (electronic-monitoring National Security Agency) requires the maximum in speed and agility, since even a very short delay may make the difference between success and failure in preventing the next attack."

He also said the program expires every 45 days and is only reauthorized upon recommendations of intelligence officials and only if they determine that Al Qaeda continues to pose a threat to America. Gonzales also took aim at Democrats who say they were not sufficiently informed of the NSA activities.

Congressional intelligence committees have known about this program for years, he said, as have other key lawmakers involved in intelligence activities.

"During the course of these briefings, no members of this Congress asked that this program be discontinued," Gonzaled added.

Gonzales said he could not discuss how the program works, as skeptics of the program have demanded. "An open discussion of the operational details of this program would put the lives of Americans at risk," he said.

"Congress and the American people are interested in two fundamental questions: is this program necessary and is it lawful. The answer to both questions is 'yes.' The question of necessity rightly falls to our nation's military leaders, because the terrorist surveillance program is an essential element of our military campaign against Al Qaeda."

What's raising the ire of many in Congress is that the program does not require warrants for such monitoring if terrorists are suspected of being involved. That means that the FISA court established to review such warrants under FISA is not consulted before the monitoring begins.

"We are continously looking at ways we can work with the FISA court in being more efficient, more effective in fighting the War on Terror," Gonzales said.

Gonzales argued that going through the FISA court would have been too cumbersome and slow. But critics counter that even the FISA court allows an emergency, warrantless search so long as the government gets after-the-fact approval. But that still requires mountains of paperwork, signatures and time lost, Gonzales said.

"All of these steps time. Al Qaeda, however, does not wait," he said. "Just as we can't demand our soldiers bring lawyers onto the battlefield … we can't afford to impose layers of lawyers on top of career intelligence officers ... [who are] tracking secret Al operatives in real time."

The program has sparked a heated debate about presidential powers in the War on Terror since it was first disclosed in December.

Gonzales said legislation passed after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, giving the president the authority to use military force in the War on Terror "calls on the president to protect Americans both 'at home and abroad,'" and "to take action to prevent further terrorist attacks 'against the United States.'"

He also noted that Bush is not the first president to exert such authority, pointing out that during the Clinton administration, Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick testified in 1994 that the president has inherent authority under the Constitution to conduct foreign intelligence searches of the private homes of U.S. citizens in the United States without a warrant, and that such warrantless searches are permissible under the Fourth Amendment.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
2/7/2006 12:27 pm

Abu Hamza jailed for seven years

from BBC Feb 7

Abu Hamza was found guilty of 11 out of 15 charges
Controversial Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri has been jailed for seven years after being found guilty of inciting murder and race hate.
Abu Hamza, 47, who preached at Finsbury Park Mosque, London, was convicted of 11 of the 15 charges he faced.

He has already been in jail since May 2004, and will appeal. His lawyer said he considered himself "a prisoner of faith" subject to "slow martyrdom".

US authorities are seeking the cleric's extradition for terror-related matters.

He is wanted on charges of trying to set up a "terrorist training camp" in the state of Oregon.

Passing sentence at the Old Bailey, Mr Justice Hughes told Abu Hamza: "I do not make the mistake that you represent Islamic thinking generally.


No one can say now what damage your words may have caused - no one can say whether any of your audiences, present or wider, acted on your words

Mr Justice Hughes

"You are entitled to your views and in this country you are entitled to express them, but only up to the point where you incite murder or use language calculated to incite racial hatred. That is what you did."

Outside the court, the cleric's solicitor, Muddassar Arani, confirmed his legal team will appeal against the conviction and fight the US extradition attempt.

A US Department of Justice said: "The United States stands ready to resume the extradition proceedings against Abu Hamza when British law allows."

Under the current law, the cleric will not be extradited until he has finished serving his sentence in the UK.

It is understood he will be eligible for parole early in 2008.


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2/7/2006 12:28 pm

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Abu Hamza was also found guilty of having audio and video tapes intended to encourage racial hatred and having a document for terror purposes.

He was jailed for seven years for the six charges of soliciting murder, 21 months for the three incitement to racial hatred charges, three years for possessing "threatening, abusive or insulting recordings" and three-and-a- half years for having a document useful to terrorists.

The judge said all the sentences would run concurrently.

Following the Egyptian-born preacher's arrest, more than 3,000 audio cassettes and 600 videos were found of speeches intended for wider distribution.

He was demonised as the man with a hook or with one eye in a pantomime-like fashion

Massoud Shadjareh
Islamic Human Rights Commission

Muslims react to Hamza conviction

And a terror manual - an encyclopaedia of Afghani Jihad - found at his west London home listed Big Ben, the Eiffel Tower and the Statue of Liberty as possible targets for an attack.

A search of Finsbury Park Mosque, in north London, also led to the discovery of forged passports, CS gas, knives, guns, tents and guns capable of firing blanks.

BBC Home Editor Mark Easton said police believed the mosque, which is now under new management, was "linked to literally dozens of terrorist plots around Europe and beyond".

Jurors watched around 20 hours of video tapes of the cleric's sermons.



Mosque raid findings revealed

The court heard him describe Jews as the "enemy of Islam", tell followers to "bleed" the enemies of Islam and they should not rest until they created a "Muslim state".

In Abu Hamza's numerous lectures and sermons, other targets included homosexual vicars, the royal family and women in bikinis.

His defence was that he was encouraging Muslims to stand up for themselves.

David Perry, prosecuting, told the court that Abu Hamza made clear encouragements to kill when he gave lectures and sermons at the Finsbury Park mosque and in Luton, Blackburn and Whitechapel, east London.

Abu Hamza will remain at Belmarsh high security prison, where he has been held since his arrest.


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2/17/2006 5:28 pm

US 'losing media war to al-Qaeda'
BBC

Al-Qaeda figures like Ayman al-Zawahri issue video messages
The US is losing the propaganda war against al-Qaeda and other enemies, defence chief Donald Rumsfeld has said.
It must modernise its methods to win the minds of Muslims in the "war on terror", as "enemies had skilfully adapted" to the media age, he said.

Washington and the army must respond faster to events and learn to exploit the internet and satellite TV, he said.

Separately, President Bush said the US should not be discouraged by setbacks in Iraq and must realise it is at war.

"We shouldn't be discouraged... because we've seen democracy change the world in the past," George W Bush said.

However, he also used his speech in Florida to claim progress in the war on al-Qaeda.

Mr Bush said that slowly but surely the US was finding terrorists where they hid.


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2/17/2006 5:28 pm

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'Newsroom battles'

Correspondents say that in recent months victory in the battle for public opinion has become a new front for the Bush administration.

In a speech to the Council of Foreign Relations, Mr Rumsfeld said some of the US' most critical battles were now in the "newsrooms".

"Our enemies have skilfully adapted to fighting wars in today's media age, but... our country has not," he said.

Mr Rumsfeld said al-Qaeda and other Islamic extremists were bombarding Muslims with negative images of the West, which had poisoned the public view of the US.

The US must fight back by operating a more effective, 24-hour propaganda machine, or risk a "dangerous deficiency," he said.

Government communications planning must be "a central component of every aspect of this struggle", he added.

"The longer it takes to put a strategic communications framework into place, the more we can be certain that the vacuum will be filled by the enemy."


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2/17/2006 5:31 pm

Analysis: Terror threat remains global By Gordon Corera
BBC security correspondent

Is the US winning its "war on terror"? As it enters into its fifth year, trying to measure success, failure or even just progress remains stubbornly difficult. And the record for 2005 provides few easy answers.

The US administration used to talk about how it had killed or captured two-thirds of al-Qaeda's pre-9/11 leaders.


President Bush has been on TV defending the US role in Iraq
But that statistic looks increasingly irrelevant when al-Qaeda has itself evolved and mutated, with a new generation of militants and leaders over the past few years - as well as the problem that the best known al-Qaeda leaders remain at large.

The battle is now increasingly being recognised as an ideological one rather than a manhunt.

But if that is true, how do you measure recruitment, radicalisation and the broader factors which might help judge the state of play in the ideological struggle?

Some of the brutal tactics from al-Qaeda-related groups in Iraq, as well as the body count of innocent Muslims in attacks in places like Amman, may have dented some of the appeal of al-Qaeda's ideology to moderate Muslims.

However, reports of US abuses of detainees in Iraq and elsewhere have done the US no favours in trying to win people to its cause.

The furore over the alleged "rendition" and torture of suspects that has arisen in Europe at the end of 2005 also risks undermining the kind of international co-operation that is vital in defeating terrorism and fracturing crucial alliances.


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2/17/2006 5:31 pm

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Differing strategies

European governments are also looking inwards at their own problems in trying to work out how to increase security whilst not alienating their own Muslim communities, who are often angry over what is happening in Iraq.


Zarqawi's rise highlights how central Iraq is to the "war on terror"
Different strategies between Europe and the US are becoming increasingly evident, although it is not clear which strategies are more effective. Differences in approach are growing even between the closest of allies.

Parts of the UK government are thought to be quite uncomfortable with some aspects of US counter-terrorist strategy, including the widespread use of mass detention as a policy in Iraq, as well as the use of so-called "extraordinary rendition" in individual cases which the UK has tried to keep at arms length from.

From al-Qaeda's side, Osama Bin Laden has not been heard from since a broadcast on the eve of the US elections in November 2004, and in the eyes of many observers, the past year has seen him eclipsed by the rise of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

Although Zarqawi officially put himself under al-Qaeda's banner, his precise relationship with the al-Qaeda leadership is the subject of considerable debate, with many analysts believing that relations are as much competitive as they are co-operative.


Jordan's king called for a war on extremists after Amman attacks
Zarqawi's rise to prominence is an indication of just how central Iraq has become to the war on terror. It may not have been before the war, but it is certainly now the central front.

It is also a "black hole" in the words of French anti-terrorism Judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere, drawing in jihadists from around the world to fight, including increasing numbers from Europe - December saw the first female European Muslim convert take part in a suicide attack.

The question will be: what happens next? How many of these people will take the skills, militancy and networks of relationships they have developed in Iraq back to their home countries?

Will Iraq thereby play the same role that Afghanistan did in the 1980s as the breeding ground for a new generation of militants? Iraq's neighbours are likely to be the first to see any signs of this, and Saudi Arabia will be especially closely watched for signs of Iraq returnees causing trouble.


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2/17/2006 5:32 pm

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Future threat


The London bombings on 7 July killed 52 people
Al-Qaeda may have evolved, but the ability of the core leadership to plan and direct attacks remains a fundamental unanswered question.

The investigation continues into London's 7 July bombings, with the trail still leading into Pakistan.

Here it is suspected - but not yet confirmed - that evidence will be found to show that there was some form of international direction or support for the attacks.

But whether such attacks are planned directly by al-Qaeda's leadership or not, 2005 has shown that the danger from terrorism remains global, with serious attacks across a wide geographical spread from London to Amman to Bali.

Next year is unlikely to be any different.


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10/14/2006 7:51 pm

TEST

I'm not asking that you take my word for it.
Please, Scan the ♥Qur'an♥
Like, ...stoning,... cutting off hands, ...feet, ....penis's, ...heads, etc. weren't major clues
something is VERY wrong with Ghengis's, ...oops, Adol, ..oops, ... Muham"MAD"'s Islam?

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