Topless Threat to Civilization  

CantonOhCouple 60M/60F
370 posts
11/5/2005 5:02 pm

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Topless Threat to Civilization

On Nov 5th, 2005 Evan Halper of the Los Angeles Times reports that a protest organization called Breasts Not Bombs were threatened with criminal prosecution and even being forced to register with the state as sex offenders if they exposed their chests during a protest scheduled for Monday, Nov 7th, in Sacramento, California.

Yup, this group of activist women who use the shock value of baring their breasts in public to dramatize their cause have been threatened with arrest, and if convicted of performing a “lewd” act, would be required to register as sex offenders.

Halper reports that police in Sacramento were worried that the display could corrupt children, prompt drivers to veer off the road, and cause sex offenders to run amok. I can buy the risk to passing motorists, some-one could lose an eye, but corrupt children? Run amok?

You have to admit, the ladies would have gotten some media attention. I can see the television teasers: Boobs at Eleven.

You can agree, or disagree, with the ladies politics. But you got to give them credit for their courage in drawing attention to their cause.

Until, big brother threatened the nuclear option. Registering as a sex offender. Sex offenders? Given the strict controls over where a sex offender can live or work, this threat is a death sentence in all but name. Think of it, mom goes to the Capital to exercise her free speech rights, is arrested and convicted, and is now a registered “sex offender”. She can’t go home. In many jurisdictions she can’t live in the same household as her own children. She’s a sex offender. If she works in the public school system, she’d better find another job. She’s a sex offender. Live within 500 to a 1000 ft of a public park. Better move. Sex offender!

The story isn’t that the rules controlling sex offenders are draconian. For real sexual predators our society is trying to ways to reduce their threat to the community, and rightly so.

The story is that the folks in the California Highway Patrol used the totally inappropriate threat of conviction and registration as a sex offender to keep free speech under wraps.

But ladies, here is an idea. You’ve heard of sit-ins? There’s a law against interfering with a woman’s right to breast feed.

Organize a “nurse-in”. I can see the TV news teasers already: Nipples at Eleven.


BullsTardeMeant 56M
837 posts
11/5/2005 6:14 pm

OMG!!! How titillating! *w* ... Let the milk flow ladies... but please, DON'T BURN YOUR BRAS.


GOT SOME?


LadySucksss 70F

11/5/2005 9:13 pm

Good writing........I think laws in this country are getting too outta hand. There seems to be a law for everything nowadays. They just had this vote go before the City Council in Tucson, (if it would be against the law to breast feed in public), they voted against ticketing the Moms but they have to have a seperate place to breast feed their babies......I wonder what they would do if our women did here like they do in the Far Eastern Countries......work in the fields, give child birth right in the field, put the baby on their backs and go back to working.......Would they be a sex offender for giving birth in public or the workplace? lol


dar_tagnon12 53M
10 posts
11/6/2005 9:32 am

I was one of the people who posed naked in Cleveland for a photographer who does photos of large groups of people in public places NAKED. We can bare all for art but not our tits in protest!!! Something wrong with that!!! I think that is a great way to protest!!!
S.


CantonOhCouple 60M/60F
553 posts
11/6/2005 3:26 pm

milkit7

Titallating is probably what the CHP was worried about. Be that as it may, the whole point of social protest is to draw attention to a cause so that people will become aware of the issue. In that light, it seemed to us to be legimate, and a LOT less offensive than burning the flag.


CantonOhCouple 60M/60F
553 posts
11/6/2005 3:29 pm

LadySucksss

Another example where "morality" plays against instinct and common sense. There is overwhelming evidence that breast feeding is good for the mother and for the child. Thus, public policy should be highly in favor of encouraging mothers to breast feed. Instead, we make them feel ashamed, outcast, unclean because some of us are too straitlaced to appreciate the beauty and common sense of a nursing mother because we "might" be exposed to seeing her naked breast.

Does this make ANY sense? Do anyone?


CantonOhCouple 60M/60F
553 posts
11/6/2005 3:31 pm

tagnon12

Excellent point. I remember reading about the artist who photographed very large numbers of nude people in public places. Do you know if his/her work ever became available online?

Maybe we'd get to see you out of that sweater!


rm_unlistedone 65M
2718 posts
11/7/2005 1:36 am

Good thoughts there!
I wonder how many in our generation's younger days would have been arrested under those same circumstance? There would probably be a whole class of "baby boomers sex offenders."
Make peace... not war. unlisted


rm_leg_fan 49M
17 posts
11/7/2005 5:30 am

A while back there was a lady in Columbus who stood topless at Broad and High to make a statement about something. She was fined, but not for baring her breasts. Disorderly conduct it was, I think. I guess Ohioans don't mind naked breats as long as you don't cause a commotion.


CantonOhCouple 60M/60F
553 posts
11/7/2005 2:06 pm

unlistedone

Whatever happened to the generation that "made love, not war".

Whatever happened to the generation that asked government and institutions to examine and act on the basis of fundamental moral beliefs about the sanctity of the individual?

Whatever happened to the generation that examined its own conscience, and at least for a little while, attempted to address the evils of racial and sex discrimination.

We got old.

We got wealthy.

We got scared.

We got selfish.


CantonOhCouple 60M/60F
553 posts
11/7/2005 2:40 pm

    Quoting rm_leg_fan:
    A while back there was a lady in Columbus who stood topless at Broad and High to make a statement about something. She was fined, but not for baring her breasts. Disorderly conduct it was, I think. I guess Ohioans don't mind naked breats as long as you don't cause a commotion.
leg_fan,

Makes you wish that civil (nipple) disobedience catches on across the country.

Viva la revolution!


dar_tagnon12 53M
10 posts
11/8/2005 8:59 am

Hey love, the photographer was Spencer Tunick. I had a link to a website for his work but it looks like it was pulled. His work is on the 1-20.com site. If you get to the picture of cleveland you will need a magnifying glass to find me (ooo that didn't sound to good). If you want picture without my sweater write to me and I will reply with some. My picture are to big to post on this site, too many mg.


OhioNiceGuy1122 65M
21 posts
11/9/2005 3:00 pm

Good thoughts, all, folks. I have always had reservations about political expressions of "morals," or "values." History is rife with examples where this "cause" has led to abuse. I seem to remember a rebellion somwhere, where the rebels - gasp! - formed a government based on the concept of, "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Geez, what are those folks afraid of?

By the way, for the next protest, I am willing to put myself at risk to make sure nobody loses a eye! Call me!


CantonOhCouple 60M/60F
553 posts
11/10/2005 6:52 pm

Dar,

Thanks for giving the web site. We'll take a look.

NiceGuy,

What a guy, taking one for the team!!!


OhioNiceGuy1122 65M
21 posts
11/11/2005 10:54 am

CantonOhCouple,

Hey, we all know how hard those nipple can get! At least we hope so! I'm just trying to make sure America is safe! At least that's what I've been told ... , "Sure, it's all fun and games until somebody ... "

I'm pretty sure that would apply here, right? Or maybe not ...


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