Mob Rules?  

ByteChaser2 52M
2834 posts
5/22/2006 5:34 pm

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5/23/2006 5:17 pm

Mob Rules?

So... I just googled "cults" and found something vaguely disturbing... There's a shit load of em up and actively recruiting right here in hometown America.

Ok, so aside from those you may be aware of - Moonies, the Hale-Bop cult (right here in my own backyard), Satanists and so on... Get this...

There are credible studies that have classified more than just a couple churches as cult like.

What are the hallmarks of unhealthy, aberrant churches? The key indicator is control‑oriented leadership, ministers who have a need to “lord it over the flock.” Abusive leaders demand submission and unquestioning loyalty. The person who raises uncomfortable questions or does not “get with the program” is cast aside. Guilt, fear, and intimidation are used to manipulate and control vulnerable members, especially those who have been taught to believe that questioning their pastor is comparable to questioning God.

My own parents dealt with this very example years back. My sister went on birth control - for acne, not for contraception as it happens. When the church pastor and elders found out, they were brow beat, threatened (spiritually) and finally at his tipping point, dad saw the place for what it was and they bolted like a covey of startled quail.

There are political groups that act just like cults. Take the example of churches as a base model... Control, unquestioned loyalty, suppression of questioning, guilt and fear and even intimidation.

Think about it for a bit... The ACLU jumps to mind right off the bat. I'm also reminded of the election year barrage of campaigning that whips die-hard political "loyalists" into rabid frenzies - even to the point where they become physically violent when faced with opposing opinions - Dem's and Reps very often resort to intimidation and vandalism in that state.

I personally placed a pro Republican banner in my yard and a W04 sticker on my truck. The sign wasn't stolen... it was shredded and left on my front porch... The bumper sticker wasn't just scraped off... someone broke out that portion of my back window!

The commercials alone are nothing more than the repetitive bombardment of either "We're the best because" or "that other party is shitty because" rhetoric. A foundation for controlling ones mind.

It's just like the "daily affirmation". You say it (or hear it) enough times and you start to believe it...

The list is frighteningly long...

eastern religious
Christian aberrational
satanic
occult/witchcraft/voodoo
spiritualist
racist
Zen and Sino/Japanese philosophical-mystical
flying saucer and outer space
psychotherapy
mass therapy or transformational training -- Sound like a Franklin Covey course to you?
political
new age
commercial
communal/self-help -- Or perhaps L. Ron Hubbard? Any of a hundred different "diet" programs?

It used to be that all we ever thought of when someone said "cult" was that bunch of seriously psychotic hippies that went on a killing spree because the leader got snubbed by some second rate actress in a "B" movie (Charlie Manson yeah?) or the week long video loop on the local news when a couple dozen significantly brain-damaged gnomes swill down poisoned kool-aid, convinced there's a spaceship hidden in a comets tail... We have a brief moment of apprehension and a good month of jokes at the Improve and we all get on with our lives.

I get this from time to time... "The Marine Corps is a cult. They brainwash Americas youth and turn them into ruthless killers".

Nope, sorry and thanks for playing. I will grant you that there are a couple zealots in the Corps... That the Corps is a rigid and somewhat intimidating organization that will use certain stress and intimidation tactics in training but a cult? Uhh... nooo.

Cults are leader-centric. There's only one (or a very small number of) leader(s). That leader maintains absolute control. The Corps has a hierarchical leadership structure that descends right down from the Secretary of Defense to the newest Private.

Cults use unethical means to coerce and control an individual. Mind control and brainwashing... The corps uses repetitive reinforcement but I tell you now, it's to develop (1) a form of muscle memory - The ability to react on instinct - and (2) instill a sense of leader-ness from top to bottom, left to right - Every Marine may well and MUST be prepared to become the "lead dog" at any given moment.

Just to clear up that common misconception mind you...

But back to the point... Cults abound friends. They are everywhere and I mean EVERYWHERE. In your schools, courts, churches, on the "paid programming" channel on cable... Sit back and watch the mob next time you attend a "management seminar" Watch that speaker work up the crowd and be amazed when, at the end, the mob blithely follows the pied piper down the road to the vat of cyanide shooters... You can tell it's cultish when they not just describe a concept but finish up by making YOU accountable for it's success... When they charge you to "spread the word". --Cult recruiting tactics...

Scared yet?


digdug41 49M

5/22/2006 6:19 pm

it's strange I came across this today byte coz I wrote something about the military today based on a conversation I had with someone in the military but see he know's that he has been brainwashed inna sense but thatwill keep him alive it's when he gets out thats prolly gonna be hard especially with no decompression

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rm_justeunfille 56F

5/22/2006 7:46 pm

T.
You are on a roll babe... since you are a learned man, you know the mecca for this sort of thing is good ole' SoCal.... starting w/Aimee Simple McPherson - fast foreward to the present.. amazing on how it has translated across the relgious divide to other venues... it is scary - truly. I have friends who spew political rhetoric (or rather, regurgitate it really - lapping it up like a loveable pet - not questioning the logic or the evidentary proof - and the spilling it out again)like it is written in stone.. one wonders.. and if you question them on any point, they get quite defensive and tell you that you are un-American or some such thing (funny - all sides retort w/that first off)....

As an aside - this little girl served in the Navy.. and no we weren't brainwashed.... but I wonder about the general public who bases their decisions on 15 second sound bites from the local/national news.. gosh.. I thnk I have gone off mark here.. damn..I'd better get off the soapbox and give back to you...


rm_sj365 55F
2414 posts
5/22/2006 8:57 pm

nope..i aint skeered, cuz you made a vow to deprogram me so all is right with the world...least with my world


ByteChaser2 52M

5/23/2006 8:42 am

    Quoting digdug41:
    it's strange I came across this today byte coz I wrote something about the military today based on a conversation I had with someone in the military but see he know's that he has been brainwashed inna sense but thatwill keep him alive it's when he gets out thats prolly gonna be hard especially with no decompression
Hey digs. Yanno, it occurs to me that a person who "knows" they've been brainwashed... hasn't been. Knowing kind of defeats the purpose yeah? There's a big difference between training someone to do a VERY distasteful task (like killing another human) and brainwashing to acheive the same result. I think it comes down to two things; motive and choice... A soldier (sailor, airman, Marine...) does it to prosecute the campaign and protect those around them. They decide who, how, when - and WHY. A brainwashed zombie does it because it's all they know to do and more importantly - have no choice in the matter.

Your friend may just be misinterpreting the training methods... I hope... I can tell ya though, I wasn't brainwashed. I had choice and conscience and my motives were at least forthright and obvious - even honorable if such a thing is possible under the circustances.


ByteChaser2 52M

5/23/2006 8:52 am

    Quoting rm_justeunfille:
    T.
    You are on a roll babe... since you are a learned man, you know the mecca for this sort of thing is good ole' SoCal.... starting w/Aimee Simple McPherson - fast foreward to the present.. amazing on how it has translated across the relgious divide to other venues... it is scary - truly. I have friends who spew political rhetoric (or rather, regurgitate it really - lapping it up like a loveable pet - not questioning the logic or the evidentary proof - and the spilling it out again)like it is written in stone.. one wonders.. and if you question them on any point, they get quite defensive and tell you that you are un-American or some such thing (funny - all sides retort w/that first off)....

    As an aside - this little girl served in the Navy.. and no we weren't brainwashed.... but I wonder about the general public who bases their decisions on 15 second sound bites from the local/national news.. gosh.. I thnk I have gone off mark here.. damn..I'd better get off the soapbox and give back to you...
Oh lord... don't get me started on the liberal press and their scare tactics... Shock jock reporting a relatively minor event without a shred of objectivity! "Massaged" public opinion polls, slanted editorials... It's not news, it's soap opera... 60 second home video, looped in a seemingly endless cycle and designed to burn the "image of the moment" into the general publics reptilian brain. Create fear and panic and trigger the fight or flight response - for RATINGS!

The cult of the news anchor...


ByteChaser2 52M

5/23/2006 8:55 am

    Quoting rm_sj365:
    nope..i aint skeered, cuz you made a vow to deprogram me so all is right with the world...least with my world
I got yer back hotness. And the view from back here... I mean

Thaynkya JEEZUS!


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