The Great White Hunter  

BenefitsFriend69 57M/60F
1008 posts
4/10/2006 10:16 pm

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The Great White Hunter

[post 304511] made me think of this. Thanks Bunz.

I was raised in a small farming town in Ohio most of my youth. Relatives on my mom’s side of the family were from a paper and steel mill town area in the Pennsylvania Appalachian mountains. They were into their guns, and their hunting camps, and their marksmanship. Deer season was a major, big deal. They had hundreds of guns, ammo loaders, survival stuff; the works. When I visited there for summers and other vacations, that’s what it was all about.

In my little town, everybody hunted. They shot lots of animals. But I’d never shoot at anything when I was hunting. I’d always say I never saw anything if I was alone. Or, if I was with someone when we saw something, I’d always let the other guy have the shot. Or I’d pretend to shoot at something and miss.

I deplore killing anything that doesn’t have to be killed for a good reason. Even at a young age, I FELT that somehow. My brothers would always give me a hard time. They’d say I was a shitty shot, blah blah. Maybe they knew the real reason. I’m gonna ask them some day.

On every other Sunday morning, a huge group of guys of all ages would gather from the little farming towns around us to go fox hunting. My older brothers and friends would made me go. These guys would start drinking beer at 8:00 in the morning, well into the afternoon.

For this style of fox hunting, there were “standers” and “drivers.” The drivers spread out across one end of a four square mile-ish wooded block surrounded by corn fields, and the standers would stand on the other end. The drivers would start walking through the woods yelling, screaming, drinking beer, shooting their guns in the air and so forth, to try to drive out the fox. Lots of little animals would come running out, and even a fox every now and then. The standers would shoot the fox if it got ahead of the drivers. Or at least that was the idea. They’d also shoot anything else that happened to wander out.

One day, when I was around 12, I was a stander. As the drivers got close, a rabbit came running toward me. It stopped about five feet from me, petrified, and stared at me. No way I wasn’t gonna shoot it. My brother saw it, ran over, and started screaming. “Shoot ‘im SHOOT ‘im ya dumbass!! SHOOT ‘IM!” The rabbit was frozen in his tracks. I intentionally loosely aimed my 12-guage, shot, and missed. My brother looked at me like I was nuts. Then he aimed, shot, and blew off the rabbit’s back legs. The rabbit tried to run but couldn’t. It just started dragging itself frantically with its front legs. My brother ran to it and (mercifully) stepped on its head with his big-ass hunting boots, killing it.

Now, I had seen a lot of things get shot and killed. Even though we didn’t live on a farm, most of my friends did, and by age 12 I had done a lot of work on farms. I had even helped my grandma ring a chicken’s neck or two. But this rabbit was, well, just too much. I started shaking, looking at that rabbit, legs blown off, covered in blood. I just couldn’t believe the cruelty and callousness with which my family and friends killed things. I wanted to cry but I would've gotten the shit kicked out of me. I couldn’t sleep that night. I still think about it.

I never went hunting again. My brothers and friends ridiculed me, but I wouldn’t go. And I haven’t gone. And I won’t go. Ever again.

I know lots of people see hunting as a sport. Real fucking sporting that is, blowing away rabbits and other little animals with your big ass guns. How about you go fight a bear, and if you can kill it with your bare hands, then you can mount it? And I do not apologize to all you macho guys for saying this. Go ahead, kick my ass. My brothers and their friends did. Maybe one less animal will get its legs blown off while you are kicking my ass.

Yes I eat meat. Yeah, I know what happens to the animals I eat to get them to me packed really nicely. Disgusting, yes. Interesting paradox isn’t it? And, isn’t it fascinating how we make up hierarchies regarding how we treat different animals? Another subject.

Maybe others can kill them. I can’t. Or maybe if as in native cultures, when my family was hungry, I blessed the animal I was about to take, then took it, then used every bit of it and thanked Spirit for it, I could kill it. Maybe.

(Princess Lips)

4/11/2006 1:49 am

And, isn’t it fascinating how we make up hierarchies regarding how we treat different animals? Another subject.


I have my own simple justifications-
I don't eat anything I would want for a pet or that is a baby animal-


nothing funky-
yeah I eat beef, but not veal! And I wear leather-
but I couldn't raise the cow and kill it..nope-


BenefitsFriend69 replies on 4/11/2006 9:09 am:
Interesting perspecitive princess, thanks. Are those lips edible? No, I WOULD want them for pets!

warmandsexy52 64M
13164 posts
4/11/2006 2:28 am

My father was a soldier and when I was a kid he would take me to the firing range at the barracks and try out all sorts of small arms. That's unusual for an English child, since we don't have the same gun culture as you guys have over in the states. I've never been tempted to shoot or otherwise kill any living creature.

I have a degree in physiology and one of the investigations involved sliding a needle into a live frog's brain (called "pithing"). I simply couldn't do it. My hand would turn to jelly and I had to put the little critter down and call it a day. And like sweetbabydee's sis I rescue worms and put them back into the ground.

I too have trouble with the meat thing. I've tried vegetarianism twice in my life and it isn't a diet I take easily to, but I don't sit easily with being carnivorous. And the next time you consider bacon, pork, gammon or ham just consider that a pig is about as smart as a dog.

Interesting post BF.

BenefitsFriend69 replies on 4/11/2006 9:13 am:
Thanks for this W&S. Yeah, the gun culture is unbelievable here. And the number of murders. Like Michael Moore pointed out in Bowling for Columbine (that movie will make you think if you haven't seen it), the Canadians have very similar gun laws, yet their murder rate per-capita is miniscule compared to that in the US. What's up with that?

I've gone vegetarian many times, but like you probably, I had trouble keeping up with it. I'm on the verge again.

rm_goddess1946 105F
13518 posts
4/11/2006 8:47 am

the only flesh food that appeals to me this very moment
in time would be you, benefits. that's about it in a

Just a little food for thought.............
If you really want to be happy, nobody can stop you...

BenefitsFriend69 replies on 4/11/2006 9:13 am:
mmmmm.. Being devoured by a Goddess. I offer myself up for sacrifice!!

saddletrampsk 54F

4/11/2006 12:04 pm

I had the unfortune of having to destroy one of my horses last December after he was hit by a truck and broke his leg..It had to be done there was no way to save him..but the image of my beautiful friend dropping to the snow with blood spurting out of his head and nose will haunt me for the rest of my life..If I had to kill to eat I would be a vegetarian for sure, I love all the animals domestic and wild..

BenefitsFriend69 replies on 4/11/2006 1:22 pm:
Ah shit how sad about the horse. It can be almost as heartbreaking as a human dying I'd bet. Still pretty fresh in your mind it seems.

Well there sure are a lot of wild animals on this site!

runzwithknives 59F

4/11/2006 6:25 pm

I don't hunt either. Won't ever. And I hate trophy hunters. Killing for the sake of it; to have the biggest head on a wall somewhere is disgusting.

On of my worst nightmares was having to finish off one of my hens after a neighborhood critter didn't. And the pig we raised? Couldn't shoot him either. Probably a good thing the bear got all the rabbits I was raising for food. Slaughter them? Nope not likely.

Most of the people I work with hunt. I eat elk, venison, bear, rabbit, antelope and rattlesnake. Like quail, dove, duck and pheasant too. But the scene you describe was so very cruel to that animal. Unnecessarily so.

I do understand the logic behind managed hunting programs. We as humans have fucked up royally in the wildlife management department, as well as pushing all kinds of critters out of critical habitat with multi-million dollar homes and a view.

There is no reason for any animal to suffer this way at our hands. Including those animals raised commercially. I too have been a vegetarian at times. But it just doesn't quite cut it for me. I don't eat a ton of meat, but don't want to give it up either.

Thanks for this post. Interesting experience and thoughtful views on this.


BenefitsFriend69 replies on 4/13/2006 9:17 pm:
Hey Rosa, thanks so much for dropping by, and for your perspective. Yeah, what a shame we're to the point where we have to kill off animals or let them starve because they've nowhere to go. Remember the prarie dog shoot (last year I think). Ugh... xo

barbiebunny 36F
5597 posts
4/12/2006 2:15 pm

The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated.
Mohandas Gandhi

and thank you for inspiring a blog for Me to be written soon.
Much love

Its good to be...ME

BenefitsFriend69 replies on 4/13/2006 9:14 pm:
Have never heard this quote, thanks How long till we go the way of the Roman empire, huh...

oldman1776 78M
3164 posts
4/14/2006 4:10 pm

When I was young i used to hunt but it was food on the table if we didn't kill something we didn't eat.

After I grew up I haven't hunted since can't shoot any thing
my friends own a orchard and wanted me to shoot the birds that were eating there fruit off the trees but I told them know way.

In on of my posts I told about watching animals and how much you can learn from them.

If your ever lost in the woods you should never starve if you watch what the animals eat and eat the same it may not taste good and it may upset your system, but you will servive.

Great post.

BenefitsFriend69 replies on 4/16/2006 9:04 pm:
Thanks for this Prince of Peace. And great advice on survival based on watching the animals. I had never heard of this.

lizardqueen2004 57F
6 posts
4/21/2006 3:58 am

we truely are careless parasites.

BenefitsFriend69 replies on 4/22/2006 3:37 pm:
Yeah. I wonder if our Mother will just spit us out some day...

rm_lilypond3 58F
83 posts
4/24/2006 2:22 am

I like raw meat.....
As in yours.........
or hers)

On the flip side...
Really liked what barbie said...and glad to know you can voice your thoughts on this being a MAN and all. tee hee.
I say "sorry" when I have to kill an ant or even a fly.

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