FWD from J....  

BaronessK 52F
1646 posts
7/2/2006 12:19 am

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FWD from J....

J sent me this, to my email; whether he just felt the need to send it on, thought it applied to him {or to me, or whoever}, I have not found out the reason{s}.

How to Forgive....

One day a while back, a man, his heart heavy with grief, was walking in the woods. As he thought about his life this day, he knew many things were not right. He thought about those who had lied about him back when he had a job. His thoughts turned to those who had stolen his things and cheated him. He remembered family that had passed on. His mind turned to the illness he had that no one could cure. His very soul was filled with anger, resentment and frustration.

Standing there this day, searching for answers he could not find, knowing all else had failed him, he knelt at the base of an old oak tree to seek the one he knew would always be there. And with tears in his eyes, he prayed:

"Lord, you have done wonderful things for me in this life. You have told me to do many things for you, and I happily obeyed. Today, you have told me to forgive. I am sad, Lord, because I cannot. I don't know how. It is not fair, Lord. I didn't deserve these wrongs that were done against me and I shouldn't have to forgive. As perfect as your way is Lord, this one thing I cannot do, for I don't know how to forgive. My anger is so deep, Lord, I fear I may not hear you, but I pray that you teach me to do this one thing I cannot do - Teach me to Forgive."

As he knelt there in the quiet shade of that old oak tree, he felt something fall onto his shoulder. He opened his eyes. Out of the corner of one eye, he saw something red on his shirt. He could not turn to see what it was because where the oak tree had been was a large square piece of wood in the ground. He raised his head and saw two feet held to the wood with a large spike through them.

He raised his head more, and tears came to his eyes as he saw Jesus hanging on a cross. He saw spikes in His hands, a gash in His side, a torn and battered body, deep thorns sunk into His head. Finally he saw the suffering and pain on His precious face. As their eyes met, the man's tears turned to sobbing, and Jesus began to speak.

"Have you ever told a lie?," He asked? The man answered, "Yes, Lord." "Have you ever been given too much change and kept it?" The man answered - " Yes, Lord." And the man sobbed more and more.
"Have you ever taken something from work that wasn't yours?," Jesus asked. And the man answered, "Yes, Lord." "Have you ever sworn, using my Father's name in vain?" The man, crying now, answered, "Yes, Lord." As Jesus asked many more times, "Have you ever...?" The man's crying became uncontrollable, for he could only answer "Yes, Lord."

Then Jesus turned His head from one side to the other, and the man felt something fall on his other shoulder. He looked and saw that it was the blood of Jesus. When he looked back up, his eyes met those of Jesus, and there was a look of love the man had never seen or known before. Jesus said, "I didn't deserve this either, but I forgive you."

It may be hard to see how you're going to get through something, but when you look back in life, you realize how true this statement is. Read the following first line slowly and let it sink in. If God brings you to it - He will bring you through it.

Lord, I love You and I need You, come into my heart, today. For without You I can do nothing. {Pass this message to 7 people except you and me. You will receive a miracle tomorrow. If you choose not, then you refuse to bless someone else. -- This was in original; do not feel obligated to pass it on; but, please, think about it, and remember it, in whichever way it truly helps you the most.}

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath.

Don't walk in front of me, for I may not follow. Don't walk behind me, for I may not lead. Just walk beside me and be my friend.

*******

I have some additional thoughts on the matter, though:

The Lord will only give you what you can handle; I just wish he didn't trust me so much!

I used to think it was a terrible thing that life was so unfair. Then I thought, 'What if life *were* fair, and all of the terrible things that happen to us came because we really deserved them?' Now I take great comfort in the general unfairness and hostility of the universe. {Marcus Cole, from Babylon 5}

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference. {The rest of that is: Living one day at a time,
enjoying one moment at a time, accepting hardships as the pathway to peace, taking as He did this sinful world as it is not as I would have it, trusting that He will make all things right if I surrender to His Will, that I may be reasonably happy in this life and supremely happy with Him forever in the next. Amen.}

There are sometimes questions as to 'what' I am; I am spiritual, not particularly Agnostic, NOT athiest, not any one certain organized religion. When these religions were founded they 'picked and chose' what they wanted as the basic foundation/tenets of their particular, named religion/group; I choose to go on my own path, to the same desination. No more nor less; I have been christened {my uncle was a Catholic Priest} and baptised, in fact. You are entitled to your beliefs and your opinions; go in peace, and share what you feel you must, but do not force another to AGREE with you. We each must find our own way/ways, in our own 'way' {and time}.

As for the email J sent, I have been thinking about why and all, and I still don't really know; he could have meant that he felt I needed to forgive someone or that he needed to but couldn't {not necessarily me, of course} or that he needed 7 people to forward to and I was on his list! Maybe he wanted me to post it to share; whatever he meant, here it is, and those are some of my thoughts on all of it....

*******

"Good evening. Here is the news on Friday, the 27th of Geldof. Archeologists near Mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is currently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read 'To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitous and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.' The page has been universally condemned by church leaders."

--Newsreader, Better than Life episode of Red Dwarf



puntachueca 105M

7/2/2006 6:52 am

I love your view of religion....agree very much.

Got off on a tangent once and created the First Church of Generic Religion (GenRel) taking the best of everything and putting it together...selling church charters for $25 over the web...and about the time I sold a charter to a guy in Japan I realized I had accidentally founded a world religion. 2000 years from now I doubt the first page of the GenRel bible will note this started on a satirical newspaper web site.

Always thought Jesus, when he returns, would walk into the Vatican and ask the Pope "what the fuck is all this?" or "did you guys lose the gospel of Mary Magdalene?"


BaronessK 52F

7/2/2006 7:28 am

I'm still working on your 'nick'/shortened handle to type out at the moment; punta, in Spanish, is 'Bitch' or something like that if I remember right! How about pun{ster}, that work for ya? ?

As for losing the Gospel {more than one, actually} we have King James to 'thank' for that! One of those 'good to be the King' times; he had the Hebrew translated to English {and changed human kind, etcetera, to 'man', along with leaving out any 'chapters'/Gospel sections he didn't approve of among which were female-oriented ones}.

I am working on a hippie/new age/nostalgic mix -- thinking along the lines of truckers and bikers and all that -- New Earth Welcoming Holy Order 18 Wheels of Gospels...uhmmmm, Ali Baba Mission Temple of the Shrine? {Yeah, I know; I am soooo going to Hell! I would try to circumvent the 'inevitable' but I've already been Baptised and Christened...and if join a nunnery and seduce a Priest...Express Ticket Time! }


*******

{Sawyer Brown -- Mission Temple Fireworks Stand (Live)}

I saw a black man with a bible and a sparkler in his hand.
He was holding a tent revival and running a firework stand.
He said the end of the world is coming so you better get on your knees.
Today bottle rockets are two for one but salvation's free.

He said, ''I quit my job at a big church where the milk and honey flowed,
To sell cherry bombs for Jesus in a tent beside the road.''
''I ain't in it for the money, most cars they pass on by,''
''But I pay the rent on New Year's and the fourth of July.''
''Here at the,

Holy Ghost, (Holy Ghost)
Big bang theory, (Big bang theory)
Pentecostal, (Pentecostal)
Fire and brimstone, (Fire and brimstone)
Mission Temple Firework Stand.

He said fireworks are dangerous. They can blow up in your face.
You better read the instructions, light the fuse and get away.
These things are made in China, so it's easy to see,
Why a man who worships Buddha ain't got no guarantee.
This is the,

Holy Ghost, (Holy Ghost)
Big bang theory, (Big bang theory)
Pentecostal, (Pentecostal)
Fire and brimstone, (Fire and brimstone)
Mission Temple Firework Stand.

Everything Im selling is all going up in smoke.
Its like taking twenty dollars y'all and watching it explode.
When the trumpet sounds and the lord comes back,
I promise you one thing. Ill be a human bottle rocket
and Ill go out with a bang.
Ill leave this:

Holy Ghost, (Holy Ghost)
Big bang theory, (Big bang theory)
Pentecostal, (Pentecostal)
Fire and brimstone, (Fire and brimstone)
Mission Temple Firework Stand.

Holy Ghost, (Holy Ghost)
Big bang theory, (Big bang theory)
Pentecostal, (Pentecostal)
Fire and brimstone, (Fire and brimstone)
Mission Temple Firework Stand.

Holy Ghost, (Holy Ghost)
Big bang theory, (Big bang theory)
Pentecostal, (Pentecostal)
Fire and brimstone, (Fire and brimstone)
Mission Temple Firework Stand....


DIVISION77 39M  
8321 posts
7/2/2006 7:05 pm

I am agnostic.

I need proof in everything.

I am skeptical of most people as well.

DIV

"My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death." -Tupac Shakur


BaronessK 52F

7/3/2006 12:54 am

I am spiritual not agnostic; it is not see and you will believe...it is believe and you will see -- that's why they call it Faith in most things, regardless. There can never be foolproof proof of anything.

Skepticism can be healthy, and a 'protection' of sorts. In that vein of thought, remember: the glass is ALL full -- it is half liquid and half air; it's all perspective.


Addendum: I am also a figment of your and my imagination, btw!


LustyTaurus 48M  
21253 posts
7/3/2006 12:56 am

    Quoting DIVISION77:
    I am agnostic.

    I need proof in everything.

    I am skeptical of most people as well.

    DIV
I'm not like DIV, in that I believe there is a God...a creator of some kind. I also tend to take people at face value...but I do not put myself in a situation where they can hurt me very quickly either.


BaronessK 52F

7/3/2006 1:05 am

Do you mean the, "Good evening. Here is the news on Friday, the 27th of Geldof. Archeologists near Mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is currently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read 'To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitous and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.' The page has been universally condemned by church leaders." {Newsreader, Better than Life episode of Red Dwarf}?

I soooo want to yank ya chain, ya know that, right? Yes AND No: it was quoted and I did write it here, but it's not 'true'/real; it was a 'news' blip from a Science Fiction show called Red Dwarf {BBC/British}, in an episode titled 'Better Than Life'! I just thought the quote 'fit'....

Hey, wait a minute...no comment about my bf? Ya sick or sumtin'? {He's sitting on a mighty purty 'piece of machinery', there, mzhuny...oh, and the Harley is great, too! }


BaronessK 52F

7/3/2006 6:02 am

    Quoting LustyTaurus:
    I'm not like DIV, in that I believe there is a God...a creator of some kind. I also tend to take people at face value...but I do not put myself in a situation where they can hurt me very quickly either.
Taurus, I don't think he meant he was an athiest. Or do you mean that, in your comment, you were stating that you believe in a God and a certain organized religion?

I have always taken the term Agnostic to mean belief in a higher power, even a single 'God', but not in any one organized religion; I personally use Spiritual, for the reason that so many people have come back at me at basically said that I was an Athiest {with that being defined, to me, as one who does not believe in a higher power, of any sort}.

Dictionary {yeah, dot com} says that "agnostic adj: uncertain of all claims to knowledge [syn: agnostical] [ant: gnostic] n : a person who doubts truth of religion [syn: doubter]" Then it went on to say, "ag搖osti搾al損y adv. Word History: An agnostic does not deny the existence of God and heaven but holds that one cannot know for certain whether or not they exist. The term agnostic was fittingly coined by the 19th-century British scientist Thomas H. Huxley, who believed that only material phenomena were objects of exact knowledge. He made up the word from the prefix a-, meaning 'without, not,' as in amoral, and the noun Gnostic. Gnostic is related to the Greek word gnsis, 'knowledge,' which was used by early Christian writers to mean 'higher, esoteric knowledge of spiritual things' hence, Gnostic referred to those with such knowledge. In coining the term agnostic, Huxley was considering as 'Gnostics' a group of his fellow intellectuals'ists,' as he called them who had eagerly embraced various doctrines or theories that explained the world to their satisfaction. Because he was a 'man without a rag of a label to cover himself with,' Huxley coined the term agnostic for himself, its first published use being in 1870."

Know do you see why I try not to post comments on other people's blogs? My, but I do get wordy, in trying to be 'specific'!


*Calling the DIV: please clarify; not as to who is 'wrong' or 'right', but for us who toil to understand you, please! {Even a Baroness is but a mere mortal in thoughts, at times! }*


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