Thanks for feedback on Anti-fraud tools  

Andrew 48M  
3913 posts
6/1/2006 12:22 am

Last Read:
6/10/2006 5:17 pm

Thanks for feedback on Anti-fraud tools


Just wanted to thank everyone for their feedback on tools to reduce fraud profile activity on this site. We've leaning to implement a policy that contact information is allow to be sent after each side of an email exchange has sent one email to the other. This is only the 2nd email sent could contain contact info.

We'll try this first to how it improves the site experience. Hopefully, it reduce members from "broadcasting" their contact information in every initial email they send.

Of course, we'll start with an automated system to identify contact information. When people report a member sending contact information strange ways (email me using blah at that hot male site), they will be dealt with harder than someone who simply forgot about the policy.

Again, we want to make sure that people are able to get together. By creating this policy, it will still retain the philosophy of the site while improving the quality of the profiles. Thanks again!

Mermaidslut 49F

6/1/2006 1:00 am

I think that is an excellent first step, and one that will inhibit the phishers from using your site so easily!


Nightguy_1961 55M
4866 posts
6/1/2006 1:04 am

One question: I get requests for info from other sites not related to meeting people. Is that considered a problem?

Just curious....

NG61....disappearing into the shadows....


ThaRealLiv 43M

6/1/2006 1:43 am

Wow!You move pretty quick, Essay. Now how long before we can get some frickin tunes on our blogposts. Cmon now. Snap to it. No American wants to get rich listening to chickens pecking!!!


ThaRealLiv 43M

6/1/2006 5:23 am

Also, I don'tknow if ya caught my latest drum roll on the magazine question entitled, who wants money?, but tha punches would hit alot harder if I could respond to each comment individually like I could in tha blogs, if GM would hurry up and buy me a gold membership.


rm_PurryKitty2 48M/49F
9753 posts
6/1/2006 5:46 am

Thanks for all your hard work!!

Purry {=}

Purry


MyHeartLost4U 52M
2303 posts
6/1/2006 6:34 am

I have one Q that pertains to some of the profiles I come across in concerns to the TOU about advertising.

Recently I have come across a few profiles that are of advertisement for "parties" (gangbangs and orgies) that are telling of the place, date, time, and charge of admission and the amount in dollars. Does this not go against TOU of advertisement on this site or is this allowable?


rm_kelli4u2dew 41F
5220 posts
6/1/2006 7:13 am

That wouldn't crimp my style at all. I want to know a bit about someone before I provide any outside contact info anyway, and usually that takes more than 2 emails.

BTW, a friend told me how the new fake profile/bloggers are working, the ones with the filters that allow no comments or emails. When a man visits their profile, soon after he gets an email that he can respond to. If he does, then contact info is transmitted. I think this is already circumventing your 2nd email policy, isn't it?


southrnpeach333 50F

6/1/2006 7:46 am

I just want my blog back.


Andrew replies on 6/1/2006 11:47 pm:
We had an issue with the latest code release that "delisted" a blog if the profile was turned off - it was resolved today and pushed live (so I was told).

I saw your blog live again

Shelly_Marie 43F

6/1/2006 8:21 am

Is there going to be a warning that is highlighted so people can easily see this? cause alot of potential guys send me emails with an email addy in it, and they may not read the warning if it is not obvious. maybe if they do put it in the first email, it should give a message saying that it cant be sent? kind of like when you put in the wrong confirmation number and it gives you that little red message at the top.


southrnpeach333 50F

6/1/2006 9:21 am

I have just completed my third call with customer service. In almost 24 hours there has been no action taken and no escalation even though I was promised last night there would be. I am now looking at another 24 hours at least for this issue to be resolved. You won't have to worry about people getting defrauded on your site at this rate.


redrobin012057 59F

6/1/2006 6:07 pm

When I first joined the site some 52 months back, it stated quite clearly that if you give out your personal details such as email addresses it maybe picked up by the site and suspend your account indiffinately?

That has been my thought all along and I would never give out that information to somebody I have never interacted with.


rm_DaphneR 58F
7938 posts
6/1/2006 9:33 pm

Darn, I suppose my plan of sending out phone numbers to guys that email me with their numbers won't work now. I was just going to mix them all up and let them call each other.

Have tongue, will use it. Repeatedly.


LustyTaurus 48M  
21253 posts
6/2/2006 12:22 am

Thanks for your work...

I could use a comment from you though, you're only 7 or so behind me now......and I'd be honored.


rm_aca2pw 53M/51F
1 post
6/2/2006 5:31 am

Now isn't this funny? I was looking around on the blog front page, found your blog. Very interesting! The next blog I stopped at had this listed on a post. i like girls who suck it hard so much for filters... LMAO


southrnpeach333 50F

6/2/2006 8:25 am

Thank you so much. And the last person I spoke with in Customer Service, Michael N. was extremely helpful even though I was very irate by that time and sent me a prompt email with my trouble shooting number.


GleesFlakyShawl 49M
1620 posts
6/2/2006 10:34 am

are u planning any kind of ISP blockage for those "profiles" who solicit, are banned and open a new account (presumably, from the very same puter) using a new different account?


GleesFlakyShawl 49M
1620 posts
6/2/2006 10:35 am

i mean using a new different email addy.....


sir_cumalot75 41M

6/2/2006 9:31 pm

luvpump, I just notified your customer service people about a blatantly obvious fake profile. This kicker of this one was that it was using a pic stolen from a porn site, and actually had the model's name and website info on it. (the profile is called hottieaddy if you want to take a look).

How can your customer service people allow a pic that has the website info on it? I can understand that they don't know all the porn models out there so they can't identify them off the bat, but when I see pics with the model's name on it as well as the website, I get the feeling that your people either a) are blind as bats or b) allow it because it makes your site appear to have more members.


MyHeartLost4U 52M
2303 posts
6/3/2006 12:05 am

I find it funny that I ask a Q that also relates to fake and fraudulent profiles and have 2 disagree votes on that Q with no explanation of why disagreeing with that question asked.

So many different techniques people use to obtain an individuals private email address, and I just listed one asking about it.


ThaRealLiv 43M

6/3/2006 5:52 am

I don't know how much time [blog 4biddenlove4u] has to live, but her blog rocks. She says some really meaningful things. PASS it on.


ThaRealLiv 43M

6/3/2006 5:54 am

I don't know how much time [blog 4biddenlove4u] has to live, but her blog rocks. She says some really meaningful things. PASS it on.


MyHeartLost4U 52M
2303 posts
6/4/2006 5:45 pm

Talk about fake and fraudulent profiles and possible stolen photos. You need to take a look at this Andrew; furthermore, I know that this has been reported by several members, yet nothing has been done about it as of yet.

SouthernGrandma = DarkSecret969 whom was listed as #1 most active group member on the Groups homepage. The photo that individual was using under DarkSecrets969 was a young Black Shemale, and now it is an older white woman that is suppose to be 70,
Then there is BirdWatcherLover = SheMale4TheWorld whom also was listed as one of the most active group member on the home page of the groups. The photo used before as SheMale4TheWorld was of a young White Shemale and now the photo used is of an older while female suppose to be 83.
Clicking on DarkSecret969 and SheMale4TheWorld will say member not found; however, go to the group Beware SPAMMERS those member handles were active in and click on them and they will take you to the new handles they are using.

How in the world can a supposedly legitimate member have their profile handle changed to something else that is so obvious and drastically different from the other one they had go unnoticed as this?


Shelly_Marie 43F

6/4/2006 6:36 pm

    Quoting MyHeartLost4U:
    Talk about fake and fraudulent profiles and possible stolen photos. You need to take a look at this Andrew; furthermore, I know that this has been reported by several members, yet nothing has been done about it as of yet.

    SouthernGrandma = DarkSecret969 whom was listed as #1 most active group member on the Groups homepage. The photo that individual was using under DarkSecrets969 was a young Black Shemale, and now it is an older white woman that is suppose to be 70,
    Then there is BirdWatcherLover = SheMale4TheWorld whom also was listed as one of the most active group member on the home page of the groups. The photo used before as SheMale4TheWorld was of a young White Shemale and now the photo used is of an older while female suppose to be 83.
    Clicking on DarkSecret969 and SheMale4TheWorld will say member not found; however, go to the group Beware SPAMMERS those member handles were active in and click on them and they will take you to the new handles they are using.

    How in the world can a supposedly legitimate member have their profile handle changed to something else that is so obvious and drastically different from the other one they had go unnoticed as this?
it is the same account too...must be someone who knows something about programming......


sir_cumalot75 41M

6/4/2006 6:37 pm

Not only that, but when your customer service people apparently either a) are blind or b) ignore profiles (such as the one below) that blatantly advertise services unaffiliated with Various, Inc., one has to wonder if a) you don't care or b) these people are in fact affiliated with Various, Inc. in some way.

And please don't give me the sad song about how your customer service people are only human and miss things like this from time to time. I got an e-mail saying my profile was approved (including any time I update it), so how can your people miss something as brazen as this:
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Shelly_Marie 43F

6/4/2006 7:17 pm

your1, also notice this post in that group that just came up? [group_post 928424] . they are bringing up old posts where people have spammed, as if they dont do enough of it themselves, pretty much a double standard if you ask me...


Cryztal 54F
416 posts
6/4/2006 11:43 pm

People are always sending me their email address and/or phone numbers in the first email they send to me ,,does this mean that will stop ? ..

Cryztal xx

Cryztal xx


TechSteve 49M

6/5/2006 6:06 am

    Quoting Shelly_Marie:
    your1, also notice this post in that group that just came up? [group_post 928424] . they are bringing up old posts where people have spammed, as if they dont do enough of it themselves, pretty much a double standard if you ask me...
Why is this such a big deal when people who are NOT part of a certain clique end up on that page ?

The people who are making a stink about this are doing it for selfish reasons.

This was supposed to be about fake profiles of SCAMMERS, not petty stuff to please a few people in a clique.

Steve


MyHeartLost4U 52M
2303 posts
6/5/2006 7:33 am

Shellie Marie, I have to agree with TechSteve here also about the postings in that group being insignificant to the topic here about fake profiles.

The fake profiles that make there way on this site in my opinion should be a main priority in being solved as it is starting to discourage many legitimate members from joining, being active or continuing use of the services offered to them (standard or premium member) and is starting to destroy the reputation of this site by disappointed and disgusted members that post in the Magazine Sections, Advice Lines, Blogs and Groups complaining about the fake and fraudulant profiles.

In my opinion and several other members I know there are many contributing factors as to why this site has had a large influx of fake and fraudulant profiles and one is the type of wording in the advertisement and description that is used. I will not list those phrases here; however, if Andrew wants my feedback be it here or emailed to him is entirely up to him and only then I will present them.

Nick


Shelly_Marie 43F

6/5/2006 9:10 am

your1 and steve, I didnt know if it gave any indication as to who it is because they are talking about others and linking to the other peoples old spam threads from back in march. and btw steve, I am not at all part of that clique.


TechSteve 49M

6/5/2006 11:50 am

    Quoting Shelly_Marie:
    your1 and steve, I didnt know if it gave any indication as to who it is because they are talking about others and linking to the other peoples old spam threads from back in march. and btw steve, I am not at all part of that clique.
Shelly, I know you have nothing to do with that clique.

I know it bugs them whenever somebody plays their game a lot better than they play it.

Get rid of the list......problem solved.......chances are the group would never have been created, just like a few other groups, if it wasnt for the list.

Steve


Shelly_Marie 43F

6/5/2006 12:20 pm

steve, maybe..I dont know. I just wonder who it is. lol.


loves2love69 56F
1 post
6/6/2006 9:30 pm

THANK YOU for your efforts to improve AdultFriendFinder. The system has gotten much better over the years.


happyladychat 47F
3740 posts
6/7/2006 2:51 am

APPLAUSE

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elusive_angel 53F

6/7/2006 5:22 pm

WILL SOMEONE FROM AdultFriendFinder>.................please fix the network friends problem...........I HAVE 8,000 friends that can't be added ...nor...deleted...........this problem has been on going for months.hence one of the reasons I REFUSE TO EXTEND MY MEMBERSHIP........ !!!!

Kisses,
Elusive Angel

elusive_angel


turq6969 69M
553 posts
6/8/2006 9:36 am

    Quoting Cryztal:
    People are always sending me their email address and/or phone numbers in the first email they send to me ,,does this mean that will stop ? ..

    Cryztal xx
I am receiving the same in email invites ... will this cease with the new policy?

Peace and Love,
Turq

Peace and Love,
Turq


turq6969 69M
553 posts
6/8/2006 9:45 am

As a start of a solution to fix this problem ... it works for me. Personally, I need more than a couple email exchanges and perhaps some private chat room discussion before providing personal email information. The live PCR helps me read between the lines to determine whether I'm being hoaxed or not.

Peace and Love,
Turq

Peace and Love,
Turq


lonelywoman68 48F

6/9/2006 1:41 am

Ok, I need HELP. What can I do about this [group_post 888588] I have reported it twice and its still there.

HELP!


Shelly_Marie 43F

6/9/2006 7:11 am

lonelywoman, You should email customer service for that. mentioning someones name is against the sites terms of use. just make sure you let them know the groups name and the post title.


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
6/9/2006 11:08 am

I posted [post 136683] and notified here about it, as have others refered to the same profiles. (bottom of page 1, or top of page 2 of my blog)

Really concerned that nothing appears to have been done about them..... i mean REAlly concerned ...... removing or shutting down a profile is instantanous for many legit ones shutdown by accident i have noticed. ... So, why does this go on...and on....and on ...and....

Also, we get Norton warning about Trojans, last one was described as very dangerous info gathering scripts...labelled as from here yet ....... from others here? or, from ?????


LilJessicaSQuirt
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Shelly_Marie 43F

6/9/2006 9:09 pm

lil, trojans from AdultFriendFinder?


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
6/9/2006 10:47 pm

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NOW ....I & others have been flagging this one & similar others for 2 damned weeks or more to you

WTF ...... are they paid ads or not!!!!!!!

Deleting them is easy ...Yet??????????????????

if u want paid ads ... say so please ...then we can decide to stay or fuck off .........

im getting a LOT of serious Trigan Warnings eminating from site also ...... a lot is going wrong lately ... and nothing is being done


LilSquirt_4mfm 67M/67F
3394 posts
6/9/2006 10:49 pm

make that "TROJAN" scripts ... a lot lately ...

and Norton says they are from here !!! Please do something!!!!


lonelywoman68 48F

6/10/2006 2:14 am

    Quoting lonelywoman68:
    Ok, I need HELP. What can I do about this [group_post 888588] I have reported it twice and its still there.

    HELP!
An update, The offending posts were read by the modertaor and were deleted. Looneys profile is now turned off also.


lonelywoman68 48F

6/10/2006 2:17 am

    Quoting lonelywoman68:
    An update, The offending posts were read by the modertaor and were deleted. Looneys profile is now turned off also.
UPDATE Number 2

The profiles GONE!

YAY! Someone listens.

tyvm to the admins.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


rm_Dianne1959 57F
334 posts
6/10/2006 3:16 am

I welcome the new update about the emails. The only thing is as from this morning Saturday 10th June, i cant mail anyone if they havent mailed me. When i view profiles the message box thats supposed to be white is now grey thus stopping me from emailing anyone but when i recieve mail i can reply to that person.

Is this just me or is anyone else experiencing the same?

Dianne x x x

Z Dianne Z


kagey24 55F
393 posts
6/10/2006 9:04 am

Sexydee ........ I have the same problem here ....makes me wonder WTF is up with that !!!!!!!!!

Kissing is my kinda language
{=}

Toronto BBW


Shelly_Marie 43F

6/10/2006 10:01 pm

sexydee, I have the same problem too...


shylena256 42F
1967 posts
6/11/2006 7:44 am

I cannot even view profiles - not even those of friends I *know* have actively paid to allow standard member contact....something is wrong


rm_Dianne1959 57F
334 posts
6/11/2006 11:40 am

I did mail customer services, this is the replu i recieved back from them:

Subject : AdultFriendFinder - Message Centre/Email Questions [23726432]

| | | Inbox


Dear member :

As a standard member, if you do not have a photo on your profile, then it
requires 3 views from other members within 3 days to gain the following
privileges:

a. Can view up to 50 profiles without seeing any photos

b. Can initiate up to 10 emails

On the other hand, once you have uploaded photos for your profile, again, it
needs to be viewed but for more than 10 times within 3 days.

Any views done after the initial login will not be counted until the following
day.

Please email us again if you have further questions.

Thank you,

Meg H.
AdultFriendFinder Support

Dianne x x x

Z Dianne Z


rm_Dianne1959 57F
334 posts
6/11/2006 11:58 am

I have mailed them again because i dont have a problem viewing profiles, but still have the problem mailing anyone.

So im taking that what they have said in their reply is a load of codswollop.

I used to be a gold member but let it run out because i still got the same problems as standard members and when i asked them why , they came back with , theres a bug in the system.

I also have the problem now , i cant mail members of the group i moderate.

*sighs" sometimes i think is it worth the hassle

Dianne x x x

Z Dianne Z


Shelly_Marie 43F

6/11/2006 5:04 pm

sexydee, it must be a load of whatever you called it, cause i havent been able to email anyone in two days now and I got over a hundred views just today...lol


rm_papy_ 50F
169 posts
6/11/2006 6:23 pm

as a standard i can see and read profiles but since the update in the mail home page i can only reply to mail not write any from profiles ???


rm_Dianne1959 57F
334 posts
6/12/2006 5:29 am

    Quoting Shelly_Marie:
    sexydee, it must be a load of whatever you called it, cause i havent been able to email anyone in two days now and I got over a hundred views just today...lol
Hi Shelly, well this is the reply i got from my second mail to them:

Subject : RE: AdultFriendFinder - Message Centre/Email Questions [23726432]

| | | Inbox


Dear Member,

Thank you for your email. AdultFriendFinder has three membership levels:
Standard, Silver, and Gold, each offering progressively more benefits, features,
and rewards.

Standard members can chat, interact one-on-one with Instant Messenger, browse
and contribute to the "Magazine" (member-submitted articles and success
stories), take the FREE relationship workshop, and respond to email sent by
other members.

Standard membership also allows you to do the following:

- View a limited number of profiles (based on your own popularity; if YOUR
profile is viewed frequently, you earn more profile views)
- Send a limited number of emails (you cannot usually initiate email, though if
your profile is viewed frequently, you earn the ability to send email)
- Send "winks" to let people know you're interested
- View and be seen in browse and search results
- Build a network of friends: receive invitations, create photo albums, and much
more
- Upload a voice/video greeting (on sites where available)
- Take exciting, insightful tests and quizzes (on sites where available)
- Receive up to 10 Cupid/Love Dog/Dove matches by email
- Check out Who's Viewing your profile
- Keep a personal "hot list" of 200 of your favorite members

If you decide you want to make faster or more targeted connections, here are a
few reasons you might want to upgrade to Silver or Gold:

*Unlimited access to attractive photos, profiles, and emails allows you to zero
in directly on available "local" singles.
* Watch live web cam broadcasts
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requirements on exact location and CURRENT availability!
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to relocate.
* Save valuable time by letting your Cupid/Love Dog send you 20+ new matches in
every email notice.
* And much more!

To upgrade now (and get busy making plans!), follow these simple steps:

1. Log in to http://AdultFriendFinder.com using your handle and password.
2. Click the first upgrade link you see.
3. Choose the member level that's right for you.

Good luck, and thanks again for your valued membership.

Thank You,

Kemeka L.
Customer Support

Send a limited number of emails (you cannot usually initiate email, though if
your profile is viewed frequently, you earn the ability to send email
) - Over the last 3 days i have had my profile viewed about 190 times. So how many views do i have to get before i can mail anyone.

luvpump - Is there any other explanation as i dont see what customer services has said makes any sense, or is it im just not getting it

Dianne x x x

Z Dianne Z


TechSteve 49M

6/12/2006 9:15 am

    Quoting kagey24:
    Sexydee ........ I have the same problem here ....makes me wonder WTF is up with that !!!!!!!!!
What are you complaining about ?

You just want to send out abuse mail to people and when they want an explanation, you ignore them. It looks good on you.

Steve


Shelly_Marie 43F

6/12/2006 12:51 pm

sexydee, I am beginning to think that it is just messed up right now because of the new email settings that they are trying to set, maybe?


kagey24 55F
393 posts
6/12/2006 7:03 pm

    Quoting TechSteve:
    What are you complaining about ?

    You just want to send out abuse mail to people and when they want an explanation, you ignore them. It looks good on you.

    Steve
The only abuse mail I send out to .. is members of my group who have no respect for me or others .. as for complaining .. It was a privilege that was taken away from US .. not just me .. so kindly direct ur rudeness elsewhere !!!

Oh btw thanks for posting this in the CEO's blog .. I truly believe you are stalking me once again ... maybe u should let it go eh !!! I only ignore and block rude and obsessed members who cannot abide by my group rules ... everyone who runs a group on this site have their own rules !!!

Well if it looks good on me .. it looks worse on you .. cause now who is gonna email you ?? A paying member ... I think not !!

Luvpump sorry for the intrusion .. of my rant ... but it was something that needed to be said ... Oh and thanks for accepting my network invite

Kissing is my kinda language
{=}

Toronto BBW


rm_Dianne1959 57F
334 posts
6/13/2006 12:01 am

    Quoting Shelly_Marie:
    sexydee, I am beginning to think that it is just messed up right now because of the new email settings that they are trying to set, maybe?
Shelly i hope so , because now that members cant "broadcast
their contact information in every initial email they send" they are broadcasting their information in the chatrooms.


Dianne x x x

Z Dianne Z


TechSteve 49M

6/13/2006 6:55 pm

    Quoting kagey24:
    The only abuse mail I send out to .. is members of my group who have no respect for me or others .. as for complaining .. It was a privilege that was taken away from US .. not just me .. so kindly direct ur rudeness elsewhere !!!

    Oh btw thanks for posting this in the CEO's blog .. I truly believe you are stalking me once again ... maybe u should let it go eh !!! I only ignore and block rude and obsessed members who cannot abide by my group rules ... everyone who runs a group on this site have their own rules !!!

    Well if it looks good on me .. it looks worse on you .. cause now who is gonna email you ?? A paying member ... I think not !!

    Luvpump sorry for the intrusion .. of my rant ... but it was something that needed to be said ... Oh and thanks for accepting my network invite
If you cannot hack it, then stay in your group.

I have no problems attracting ladies, something you and your friends are not, so dont even go there.

Steve


Shelly_Marie 43F

6/13/2006 8:44 pm

sexydee, i noticed tonight that i was able to send emails again. Its still the same as before probably, but like the help page says about popularity priveledges, it carries itself over after three days and when they added the new email settings it probably had to start all over again. today is the third day I think, since they added that....


rm_Dianne1959 57F
334 posts
6/14/2006 11:43 pm

    Quoting Shelly_Marie:
    sexydee, i noticed tonight that i was able to send emails again. Its still the same as before probably, but like the help page says about popularity priveledges, it carries itself over after three days and when they added the new email settings it probably had to start all over again. today is the third day I think, since they added that....
Hi shelly, yes im able to send emails again. Will have to wait and see if it all comes together.

Dianne x x x

Z Dianne Z


GiggleBite 56M

6/17/2006 12:19 pm

where have all the negative comments disappeared to? New software doing that as well lol


OboesHonedIambs 62F

6/17/2006 2:33 pm

It works ok somewhat, but I really have a small contact group and sometimes if we're not emailing for a while, we're also getting the warnings about personal info too. Maybe there could be an "I approve this person" button we can check off what would turn off the warning message???

Also I think a "Wall of Shame" that lists Fraudulent names/accounts would be good too.

Instant Human -- Just Add Coffee


SmallTightKitty 57F

6/17/2006 5:00 pm

I just joined today as a standard member and I am not into cheating anyone or hurting others and after reading all of this I really worried is this site even safe and are there any honest people out there who really do what to meet who are clean and D/D free.


cookie7823 46F

6/17/2006 5:01 pm

I changed my auto renew status recently....but now I am required to send a signed document to re-up??? I would, but I don't have a printer...don't need one....til now. I'm PISSED. But then, again, I wanted to pay for premium membership....but CAN'T.


Shelly_Marie 43F

6/17/2006 6:36 pm

smalltight, I've been here for 2 years and not had any trouble at all, for the most part this site is safe, and there are people who want to meet up. These things affect guys the most not women.


FeistySyn 51F

6/18/2006 1:02 pm

Ouch... poor guy... glad this is not my blog

Apparently the depth of depravity here is bottomless... don't you feel right at home?
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foxxxydiva 36F  
50 posts
6/18/2006 10:12 pm

Will there be any "anti stalking" tools implemented in the near or even distant future? And I have emailed, called etc, to no avail...


Ticodealer 48M

6/20/2006 1:17 am

This is total B.S. I am gold paying member for over three years and if I want to send my email address or phone number on the initial contact what business is that of yours. What in the hell am I paying a gold membership for?


TechSteve 49M

6/23/2006 8:10 am

    Quoting kagey24:
    The only abuse mail I send out to .. is members of my group who have no respect for me or others .. as for complaining .. It was a privilege that was taken away from US .. not just me .. so kindly direct ur rudeness elsewhere !!!

    Oh btw thanks for posting this in the CEO's blog .. I truly believe you are stalking me once again ... maybe u should let it go eh !!! I only ignore and block rude and obsessed members who cannot abide by my group rules ... everyone who runs a group on this site have their own rules !!!

    Well if it looks good on me .. it looks worse on you .. cause now who is gonna email you ?? A paying member ... I think not !!

    Luvpump sorry for the intrusion .. of my rant ... but it was something that needed to be said ... Oh and thanks for accepting my network invite
You banned me without explanation and then proceeded to assassinate my character in your group and allowed others to join you because you didnt like what I said elsewhere on the site. That was NONE of your business.

Then you lied to me.

That is NOT on with me.

Unlike what you may think, I am NOT going to forget it.

Steve


Shelly_Marie 43F

6/24/2006 10:29 pm

well, AdultFriendFinder is at its usual ole saturday night halt again.


Mormegil6 48M

6/26/2006 4:13 pm

Buddy I think your new policy punishes those of us who are already paying members. Now I have to pay to be a Gold member and to have someone to respond to my email at least twice and there is still no assurance that person might be a spammer or a bot. How about you have your people do their job! I can spot phonies on this site in the hour or two I spend here just reading the profiles and looking for inconsistancies. How about making everyone pay? A spammer or bot is not going to want to pay if they will lose the money when they are caught. It might cut down on the number of members initially but I would rather have fewer REAL people than the fakes, spammers and bots the site has now. I know you are in the business of making money, but how about a bit of customer satisefaction for those of us who already pay, otherwise I can tell you I will not renew my membership. post 370563


Shelly_Marie 43F

6/26/2006 6:46 pm

    Quoting Mormegil6:
    Buddy I think your new policy punishes those of us who are already paying members. Now I have to pay to be a Gold member and to have someone to respond to my email at least twice and there is still no assurance that person might be a spammer or a bot. How about you have your people do their job! I can spot phonies on this site in the hour or two I spend here just reading the profiles and looking for inconsistancies. How about making everyone pay? A spammer or bot is not going to want to pay if they will lose the money when they are caught. It might cut down on the number of members initially but I would rather have fewer REAL people than the fakes, spammers and bots the site has now. I know you are in the business of making money, but how about a bit of customer satisefaction for those of us who already pay, otherwise I can tell you I will not renew my membership. post 370563
some of the spammers might be willing to pay anyway if they had to, cause it is much cheaper than paying for advertising on say.....yahoo....for one, and its not like they have to pay everyday that they are here. And sometimes you can tell when someone is using fake pics but what if they dont have pics, then you cant tell whether they are fake or not. Some people just dont know what to put in their profile either. I say one thing about that though, they should not have such a thing as 'prefer not to say' for the personal or physical statistics part, this way it all has to be filled out. If they dont fill it out then they cant get any further than the join page, plain and simple. There is nothing more annoying than people who dont fill out that information and all you see is 'prefer not to say' 'prefer not to say' 'prefer not to say' 'prefer not to say' 'prefer not to say' 'prefer not to say' 'prefer not to say' 'prefer not to say'. I know one thing, if this site wasnt free, then I wouldnt be a member here either, and considering that a majority of the members are standard members then this site wouldnt have many people on it in each location. I do think that they should have a better way of approving the profiles to begin with, and that all fields should be filled out in entirety, this way the members that are here would be 'better quality' members rather than just a "one-logon-wonder" that will never visit the site again and whose profile just goes back into the search listing archives, and with also a warning page before finally 'joining' the site that they have to check off where they agree that suggests what the (circumstances?? or insert a better word there, cause I couldnt think of it...lol) of being reported for spamming would be. well this is all i can think of, other than what they have already done.


Shelly_Marie 43F

6/26/2006 6:52 pm

also, one thing...the chat rooms here dont filter out other websites, maybe they should...I think that is one reason why they join up here too, cause they can just flood the chat rooms with adverts for the website. It is especially popular in the busier topical chat rooms like the hot tub and cyberfantasy chat room (and some of the others too). And probably should have those same filters for the IMC too.


foveroulasoy2005 53F
2 posts
6/28/2006 11:17 pm

Well i seem to find this all very interesting but it does no good. i have been a recent member of photo theft and worse of all from my private albums..the person has had all 3 profiles removed but just makes more and top using part of my name. They have also used my network and friendship with others to get my email and proceeds to create accounts and gives out my email. this is just never ending battle..WHO DO YOU TRUST????
I have 2 profiles here for over 3 years and its so sad. Best part is only needs a standard member to infringe on gold/silver member.
Doesn't make any sense. What good is membership?
I WILL CONTIUNE THIS LOVELY ADVENTURE SOME HOW HOPING THAT ONE DAY THE PERSON WILL GIVE UP.
NOTE: YOUR EFFORTS RE: NOT GIVING OUT EMAIL DON'T WORK JUST RIGHT
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GiggleBite 56M

7/3/2006 10:42 am

nope. is he still here?


Shelly_Marie 43F

7/3/2006 2:25 pm

he got spammed to death


GiggleBite 56M

7/6/2006 4:12 pm

Or too busy deleting posts that arent up to the required *WELL DONE ,, Oooh BRAVO * standard. Watch this one go the same way as the rest.

C`est La Vie

GB


Shelly_Marie 43F

7/10/2006 8:54 am

he is still here, there is a newer post in his blog now...


spannerman52mm 58M
3 posts
7/23/2006 9:28 am

    Quoting Shelly_Marie:
    he is still here, there is a newer post in his blog now...
I also think that a 4page blog responce should warrant comment,particularily after such a period of time,even if only to acknowledge and close the topic.There are a range of subjects with in these pages for which the respondants know doubt felt strongly.


rm_sweetnurse25 42F
8 posts
7/26/2006 5:33 pm

my group has been the victim of your new protocols to stop fraud. my group description which has gone unchanged for the few years since it's creation. however, with these new anti-fraud rules my group's description was reviewed and my group denied because my group description allegedly had contact information in it. there is no contact information in the descriptionl. there are no email addresses, phone numbers, instant message, etc. in the description. my group description only has what the group is about, the city we're in, and the set day and time that we hold chats in the group chatroom, nothing else. i sent the description for update in the hopes that when you reviewed it you would see your error. however, the group was denied again. what's going on and what can i do? this is upsetting a very successful and active group. all these changes instead of improving is making things worse. i don't know if this some sort of error bug of yours but what can i do to get my group active again. here is the group i'm talking about if you want to review the decription, BBWS in houston . the onlyt thing else i can try is blanking the description which is ridiculous, or removing our chat times since i don't know what your reviewers is mistakenly viewing as contact information.

please, help
sweetnurse25


Dom4YngBDDSfun 57M
112 posts
3/12/2007 11:16 am

Today I had an abuse/threat incident that I reported and I'll expain that in the context of this Anti-Fraud thread.

There have been obvious changes to the IM and email info (which really is not contact info, only communication info). I have a strong belief that this is pointless in the broad scheme of things - more a facade than real security of people.

I've written about this many times to the support folks. And called, them and have had very bizarre answers regarding this. Contact info helps people track someone down physically. Identity theft uses phsysical contact info and personal info. DOB is personal info that should be hidden to cut fraud, identity theft, etc. I've had support folks tell me to fake my DOB, to prevent ID theft. Well, if faking it is suggested, that proves that it does not have to be on the site. Year and Month are really plenty for anyone to have for a personal's site.

Today I saw a comment to one of my advice line postings. The creator of the Question, posted a very non-veiled suggestion that I should be hung (killed) which is an illegal threat in anyone's most narrow view.

I reported it online, and I called to back it up. I paid for the call since we who pay for gold no longer have a toll free line.

Rather than taking action against the person/profile of the one who made the threat, your staff person simply removed his comment.

Now, by looking at that AL question, he will clearly know that I reported him. Talk about VICTIMIZATION to the highest degree, this is unbelievable.

Not only was I targeted once by a member who often makes prejudicial remarks, I was slam dunked by the failure of the abuse reporting process to take him offline.

So, if I get this right, legal posting of ones communication info is met with heavy, swift inactivation of that person's account, but death threats which are a more serious TOS violation, are an illegal action are met with action against the person who complained. In effect, your site and staff become party to his illegal action as further supporting his ability to continue and to see who that someone turned him in.

What am I missing here?


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