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Coerced Into Having Sex  

khuXBFXM8u 62M
6260 posts
7/9/2014 8:37 am
Coerced Into Having Sex

When you read the title what were you thinking…? Were you thinking about a woman being coerced into having sex by a man? Well sorry to disappoint, but this post is about the exact opposite, females coercing males into sexual behavior... it more common than you think.

I read an article several months back, about an academic study of young men being coerced into having sex by sexually aggressive females. According to the article published by the APA journal of Psychology of Men and Masculinity, 43 percent of high school boys and young college men, indicate they have had unwanted sexual experiences, and 95% said a female acquaintance was the aggressor. 18 percent reported the sexual coercion was by physical force; 26 % described unwanted seduction by sexual behaviors; 7 % after being given drugs or alcohol; and 31 % said it was by verbal coercion. Now verbal coercion, (or at least an attempt at verbal coercion), I have witness or at least heard firsthand. Back in the 1980s in my university days, I returned to my dorm room late one night, to hear my best friend trying to talk his way out of having sex with a girl, who aggressively wanted him as her boyfriend, (he was just beginning to see someone else). At the time I thought it was the funniest thing ever, so I rounded up a few other friends and we listened closely. She had some of the best closing material ever, and my friend was scrambling to rebut her argument. Anyway the study, found that half of the coerced men had intercourse, 10 % reported an attempt to have intercourse and 40% had just fondling and kissing.



The study used statements to measure the different types of coercion activities. Examples of coercion included “My partner threatened to stop seeing me” for verbal; “My partner encouraged me to drink alcohol and then took advantage of me” for substance; “My partner threatened to use or did use a weapon” for physical; and “My partner has tried to interest me by sexually touching but I was not interested” for seduction. The findings revealed a need for more scientific study of the thin line between sexual seduction and sexual coercion. And interesting difference between males being coerced into sex and females is that the male victims’ self-esteem doesn’t seem to diminished as a result of the incident.

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1chellee 37F
222 posts
7/9/2014 8:49 am

Oh please...a man has a switch and if it is not turned on NOTHING can happen!


spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
7/9/2014 8:49 am

I once came across a woman who claimed they had r aped a man. My mind boggled!


kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
7/9/2014 8:50 am

I'm sitting here wondering where I might find someone willing to coerce me. I can't even remember all the times I must have whined and wheedled to get sex from girls. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. I think I must have been a little diminished by those encounters. The real ego boost comes from the potential partner tearing her clothes off, can't wait to get at you. If I can locate a volunteer, I will happily collect data and report back to you about my feelings.

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FunPleasurable 60M
3997 posts
7/9/2014 9:51 am

Uuuummmmm...... Aaahhhh...... Mmmmmmm ..... Speechless.

I wish I was in that difficult position. I promise I won't tell.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/9/2014 10:02 am

    Quoting  :

Yes find a new partner But I guess like someone men with some women it all about conquest.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
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7/9/2014 10:08 am

    Quoting 1chellee:
    Oh please...a man has a switch and if it is not turned on NOTHING can happen!
Lets go with your assumption that a man has a switch that's either on or off, and it your man... he is trying to be exclusive with you. One of your acquaintances gets alone with him, start trying to push buttons, finds the right one, and turns him on.

Do you give him a free pass. Not always so simple, unless you are one who like to apply double standards and stereotypes when it is convenient to do so.

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pal334 69M  
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7/9/2014 10:09 am

I am surprised by this. I have never been coerced , but this is a new world.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/9/2014 10:13 am

    Quoting spunkycumfun:
    I once came across a woman who claimed they had r aped a man. My mind boggled!
I have head of the same thing from a man 20 years my junior who believes he was an unwilling participant. He remembers being very drunk, being offer a ride home, then waking up the next morning in his own bed, being serviced by a girl he didn't want to be with. He put a stop to it and asked her to leave.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
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7/9/2014 10:18 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    I'm sitting here wondering where I might find someone willing to coerce me. I can't even remember all the times I must have whined and wheedled to get sex from girls. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. I think I must have been a little diminished by those encounters. The real ego boost comes from the potential partner tearing her clothes off, can't wait to get at you. If I can locate a volunteer, I will happily collect data and report back to you about my feelings.
Careful! I'm sure I can find someone who you would not want to sleep with, because everyone has standards. Although a lady tearing her clothes of because she can't wait to be with you sound exciting, if it's someone you don't want to have sex with for what ever the reason

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
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7/9/2014 10:20 am

    Quoting George_W_Johnson:
    I wonder what the percentage of men who HAVEN'T been coerced BUT wanted to be is?
100% probably, and likely as high for women... the caveat is, if it's someone they want to get with.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
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7/9/2014 10:24 am

    Quoting FunPleasurable:
    Uuuummmmm...... Aaahhhh...... Mmmmmmm ..... Speechless.

    I wish I was in that difficult position. I promise I won't tell.
If it's someone you don't or didn't want to be with, that you wouldn't touch with the proverbial 10 foot pole I'm sure you didn't have the image of that lady dancing through your mind when you penned the comment.

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kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
7/9/2014 10:25 am

Uncle! Uncle! I am sure you could find someone I don't want to have sex with! Although the field has narrowed somewhat the last couple of decades.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
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7/9/2014 10:34 am

    Quoting pal334:
    I am surprised by this. I have never been coerced , but this is a new world.
I don't think it is anything new, I think as women are start to become more are more sexually assertive, we will find that the bad behavior exhibited by men will be exhibited by women. The existence of the movie the Graduate demonstrates that it existed back when we were kids and before that.

I do remember as an 11 year old, a physically mature 14 year girl attempting to kiss me as we walked home. I didn't know her very well, and the advance was completely unexpected, flattering, but extremely unnerving for me at the time. I avoiding being anywhere near her after that.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/9/2014 10:38 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    Uncle! Uncle! I am sure you could find someone I don't want to have sex with! Although the field has narrowed somewhat the last couple of decades.
I wasn't meaning to beat you down... it's just a subject I think there is a rush to judgment on, without really giving it some thought.

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openagenda 108M
6275 posts
7/9/2014 10:39 am

Coerced to do something you did NOT want to do, young graduate Ben ?

A "thin line between sexual seduction and sexual coercion" ???

Gees and my blog post clearly states Seduction isn't making someone do what they don't want to do. It is enticing someone into doing what they secretly want to do already."

Methinks the keyword is enticing (ie tempt, lure, allure, attract).

Then again, as Mae West was fond of saying "Seduction? I wrote the story myself. It's about a girl who lost her reputation and never missed it."

Have had it happen, the seduction/alluring bit; unless you count a previously unkown woman walking up to me at the bar and whispering "Do you want to fuck?" in my ear as coercion.

No, I have never been coerced into having sex.

Yes, Mrs Robinson, we can do that but can I finish my drink first?.

pssst That pic is from a very old movie (1967). How times have changed. It isn't consider untoward now, except by the naive puritans.


lil_whimsical 53F
8781 posts
7/9/2014 11:16 am

Seduction isn't coercion, in my opinion.
Alcohol, I don't really buy either. Alcohol may lower inhibitions, but men don't typically function very well sexually when they've had too much to drink. aka "Whisky Dick."

I've heard a lot of women claim to have been r-ped or d-r-ped, and I don't buy it. Unless there was a weapon, they knocked you unconscious, Roofied you, or are holding your kids hostage - if you don't have physical bruises, scrapes, and rug burns, you consented.

This "coercion" language is a really bad idea. People are free to say yes or no to sex. Giving in to pressure, feeling bad for someone, being seduced is NOT coercion.


khuXBFXM8u 62M
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7/9/2014 11:38 am

    Quoting openagenda:
    Coerced to do something you did NOT want to do, young graduate Ben ?

    A "thin line between sexual seduction and sexual coercion" ???

    Gees and my blog post clearly states Seduction isn't making someone do what they don't want to do. It is enticing someone into doing what they secretly want to do already."

    Methinks the keyword is enticing (ie tempt, lure, allure, attract).

    Then again, as Mae West was fond of saying "Seduction? I wrote the story myself. It's about a girl who lost her reputation and never missed it."

    Have had it happen, the seduction/alluring bit; unless you count a previously unkown woman walking up to me at the bar and whispering "Do you want to fuck?" in my ear as coercion.

    No, I have never been coerced into having sex.

    Yes, Mrs Robinson, we can do that but can I finish my drink first?.

    pssst That pic is from a very old movie (1967). How times have changed. It isn't consider untoward now, except by the naive puritans.
You have complete missed the point... or you are naïve to believe that men can't be coerced into sex. Men (women too) have been coerced into marriages, which is a much longer term an more involved commitment. The picture the Graduate, does ride the fine line, between seduction and coercion, that's who I choose it.

If the woman who whispering "do you want to fuck" pressed a gun into you back as she said it, or prefaced the statement with, "I will ruin your career", and had the ability to do so, would that be coercion or enticement as you call it?

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/9/2014 11:45 am

    Quoting  :

It's an important distinction of how we are socialized. Sex is still see as women "giving it up" and men as "taking it". If I had to make an educated guess, that would be the reasons the men studied don't feel the stigma... As one commenter point out, a women just having to have you as a man no matter what, is still seen as a badge of honor.

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sexysixties2 106F
39750 posts
7/9/2014 12:31 pm

I'm not at all sure about this. If the man really did not want to have sex with the woman, or if he were threatened and there was an element of fear there....I don't see how he would have an erection. Maybe he could be coerced to do other stuff like oral....but full sex.....I have my doubts.

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1chellee 37F
222 posts
7/9/2014 1:01 pm

Your anology makes no sense in regards to my point...try again.


openagenda 108M
6275 posts
7/9/2014 1:16 pm

    Quoting khuXBFXM8u:
    You have complete missed the point... or you are naïve to believe that men can't be coerced into sex. Men (women too) have been coerced into marriages, which is a much longer term an more involved commitment. The picture the Graduate, does ride the fine line, between seduction and coercion, that's who I choose it.

    If the woman who whispering "do you want to fuck" pressed a gun into you back as she said it, or prefaced the statement with, "I will ruin your career", and had the ability to do so, would that be coercion or enticement as you call it?

    Stand upright brother, stand upright.
Khu, given I am and always have been a formidable presence physically, I doubt short of a gun (illegal in Canada) I could be coerced by a female.

"I will ruin your career." ??? Gees, guys who take on new, strange (no pun) women are always putting their career against the wall. To think otherwise is naive ... or worse.

Nope, I did not miss the point at all.

lil_whimsical and I are on the same page.

1chelle
is correct. A dick can NOT be made to be involuntarily hard and long. Incentive must be given for the blood to pump.

sexysixties2 correctly promotes common physiological sense.

Seduction is NOT coercion.

Enticement is NOT coercion.

The closest thing to coercion (in North America) is BD SM and its bondage (pun intended) and IF you converse with practicioners you will find one word that is prevalent - TRUST.

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sweet_VM 65F
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7/9/2014 3:02 pm

Always a new world when I see things like that.. hugs V

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
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7/9/2014 11:59 pm

    Quoting sexysixties2:
    I'm not at all sure about this. If the man really did not want to have sex with the woman, or if he were threatened and there was an element of fear there....I don't see how he would have an erection. Maybe he could be coerced to do other stuff like oral....but full sex.....I have my doubts.
Direct stimulation of the penis of a late teens or early 20's male, it will get erect. At that age men have been know to have them spontaneously.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/10/2014 12:02 am

    Quoting 1chellee:
    Your anology makes no sense in regards to my point...try again.
A man's penis can be erect without him being turned on (horny). Look it up.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
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7/10/2014 12:18 am

    Quoting openagenda:
    Khu, given I am and always have been a formidable presence physically, I doubt short of a gun (illegal in Canada) I could be coerced by a female.

    "I will ruin your career." ??? Gees, guys who take on new, strange (no pun) women are always putting their career against the wall. To think otherwise is naive ... or worse.

    Nope, I did not miss the point at all.

    lil_whimsical and I are on the same page.

    1chelle
    is correct. A dick can NOT be made to be involuntarily hard and long. Incentive must be given for the blood to pump.

    sexysixties2 correctly promotes common physiological sense.

    Seduction is NOT coercion.

    Enticement is NOT coercion.

    The closest thing to coercion (in North America) is BD SM and its bondage (pun intended) and IF you converse with practicioners you will find one word that is prevalent - TRUST.

    BT - DT.
Two words... Morning wood! The graphic example of an erect penis without arousal.

Open, I too am formidable physically imposing presence... all men are not. Your experience and view point in not the same for all men. To believe otherwise is foolish or arrogant (take you pick). Seduction and coercion have different definitions, there are not the same because the topic is sex. You can choose to see it as the same in your situation, other's see it differently. When looking at sexual coercion, the criteria can't be different based on the gender of the victim.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/10/2014 12:19 am

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    Always a new world when I see things like that.. hugs V
There are lost of things that fly under the radar, this is just one of them.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/10/2014 6:30 am

    Quoting  :

Once the study didn't touch on was the sexual orientation of the participants. They did identify that males between 16-24 were most at risk of experiencing the coercion, an suggest wanting to not be judged as being homosexual if they refused the advances, may make them more likely to cave to the coercion attempt.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
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7/10/2014 6:31 am

    Quoting  :

Yes people definitely can, and history is riddled with examples, some of them of epic proportion.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/10/2014 6:33 am

    Quoting AmeliaCox:
    I'm aware of three instances of such happening... I was sickened. No means NO, for both sexes, not just one way.
Some people, even those who profess to be enlighten still cling to double standards. No definitely means NO.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/10/2014 6:35 am

    Quoting AmeliaCox:
    Fear can trigger involuntary erections in men... Women with knives can be very intimidating.
Mel, for some it's definitely difficult to let go of long held beliefs, especially when it come to the sexual arena.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/10/2014 6:49 am

    Quoting lil_whimsical:
    Seduction isn't coercion, in my opinion.
    Alcohol, I don't really buy either. Alcohol may lower inhibitions, but men don't typically function very well sexually when they've had too much to drink. aka "Whisky Dick."

    I've heard a lot of women claim to have been r-ped or d-r-ped, and I don't buy it. Unless there was a weapon, they knocked you unconscious, Roofied you, or are holding your kids hostage - if you don't have physical bruises, scrapes, and rug burns, you consented.

    This "coercion" language is a really bad idea. People are free to say yes or no to sex. Giving in to pressure, feeling bad for someone, being seduced is NOT coercion.
Coercion: to compel by force, intimidation, or authority, especially without regard for individual desire or volition... that the definition!

Can someone be intimidated without treat of violence into doing something... It happens daily. It may not happen to those who have stronger will (like you or as easily, but can you honestly say that you have never be coerced into doing something (no sexual) you didn't want to do Often the choice is made to comply, because it become a choice of the lessor of 2 evils. Because we are talking about sex, touching and kissing (do make the big "R" the focus of the argument, because it is not the focus of this post), those same forces don't just evaporate?

If this post was about men coercing women into having sex, the comments would be different. Should the situation be judged differently because the gender roles are reversed. That's a double standard my friend.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/10/2014 6:52 am

    Quoting  :

Yes, the study identified that. Look at the backlash in this post. Now imagine the young man can't bear to be thought of a gay. Certainly when word gets out that he refused, he may have to face that situation, and it become the choice of the lessor of 2 evils.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/10/2014 7:03 am

    Quoting  :

Missy, recognizing that this issue flies under the radar doesn't diminish the fact that acts of sexual assault are perpetrated against women on the daily.

As I said previously, I think its a socialization process, why the men are not affected in the same manner. It's always amazed me how people can't look at things objectively, because of pre-conceived notions and stereotyping. Like when a sexual assault happens, they investigate the victim's sexual past. To be blunt, if someone say NO, what they have done in the past doesn't make it OK for the NO to be ignored.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
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7/11/2014 11:34 am

    Quoting  :

J. another example of this situation. I wish people would stop trying to always apply stereotypes to every situation, and believing it is gospel.

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TXArmyWife 51F
1964 posts
7/11/2014 12:45 pm

Wow! This discussion has angered me! Like you said, if the roles were reversed, things would be sooo much different!

I'm really hoping that the word coercion is being used because this site won't let us use the r word. Because that is what it is! People that think men can't be rped, are ridiculous. Yes, men can get an erection when they don't want to!

I understand the people don't take this seriously, but to say, I wish someone would coerce me, is saying you want to be rped. The fact that men don't take it emotionally, like women do, does not make it any less horrible!

I am done.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/12/2014 12:33 am

    Quoting TXArmyWife:
    Wow! This discussion has angered me! Like you said, if the roles were reversed, things would be sooo much different!

    I'm really hoping that the word coercion is being used because this site won't let us use the r word. Because that is what it is! People that think men can't be rped, are ridiculous. Yes, men can get an erection when they don't want to!

    I understand the people don't take this seriously, but to say, I wish someone would coerce me, is saying you want to be rped. The fact that men don't take it emotionally, like women do, does not make it any less horrible!

    I am done.
No this post wasn't about "R', is was about coercion, and an academic study about it. Some just ran in the "R' direction. Anyone, male or female, can be sexually assaulted by another person (male or female), it is a fact. Men can become hard against their will... and a hard-on can also be inducted by medication (the famous little blue pile, and it's competitors), no different than the date "R' drugs used on women.

I didn't get from the study that men don't take it emotionally... it just doesn't see to have the debilitating self-esteem challenges that women who are victims of coercion or out and out sexual-assault have.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
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7/12/2014 12:34 am

    Quoting  :

Sorry to disappoint.

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hotsandy5 49F
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7/12/2014 4:53 pm

Interesting post.
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khuXBFXM8u 62M
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7/13/2014 5:39 pm

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Brilliantly stated.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/13/2014 5:42 pm

Thanks... an interesting and overlooked topic.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
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7/24/2014 6:35 pm

    Quoting  :

Not if it's someone you didn't want to get with.

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librarian_girl83 40F
32 posts
7/27/2014 11:24 am

No one gets coerced or tricked into having sex. If there is no other influences to create an out come, you have sex cause you want to.


rm_houman4you 59M
23 posts
7/29/2014 8:28 pm

In college, a girl who had a crush on me wouldn't take no for an answer after a party. I really was interested in someone else and not her. But I am a male and gave in to her pressure. It's not so great if you're not really into it. Of course now a days I should be so lucky.


khuXBFXM8u 62M
10296 posts
7/29/2014 9:04 pm

    Quoting librarian_girl83:
    No one gets coerced or tricked into having sex. If there is no other influences to create an out come, you have sex cause you want to.
It's a common misconception. If you read through the comments you will see a comment from someone who attempted to coerce a friend into it, and one from a mother who's child was the target of a coercion attempt.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
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7/29/2014 9:06 pm

So true!

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
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7/29/2014 9:08 pm

    Quoting rm_houman4you:
    In college, a girl who had a crush on me wouldn't take no for an answer after a party. I really was interested in someone else and not her. But I am a male and gave in to her pressure. It's not so great if you're not really into it. Of course now a days I should be so lucky.
It can be tough to stand your ground... but stand your ground you must.

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khuXBFXM8u 62M
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8/7/2014 10:24 pm

    Quoting  :

Well yes... if women can be coerced into having sex then so can men. But smooth taking is more along the lines of seduction, where coercion is more of a veiled or direct threat.

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